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    The last resort according to basic self preservation.

    The other side have guns too. What do you think they’re gonna do when you start killing their people?

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        And sure, shoot at the fucker that’s a threat to you. That’s no justification to shoot at persons 2 and 3 that had similar belief systems but wasn’t shooting at you.

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            Oh, the entire right wing is killing people? So how much blood is on the hands of the elderly couple down the road that go to church every Sunday?

            Such rhetoric is not only incredibly immature and lacking of insight, it encourages the extremism that leads to violence. Grow up.

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                Ohhh okay. So, the political right wing of Spain, which is far less prone to political violence than that of, say, America?

                Do you not understand how introducing violence to that equation is an even worse idea?

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      One side is gonna lose in the end. That is all that matters. The world is ruled with violence. Non-violence only is beneficial to those currently in power.

      Basic self-preservation as you put it requires violence. How are you going to preserve yourself when you let people run around who want to opress or kill you?

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        One side is gonna lose in the end.

        And there are plenty of times where this is done non violently.

        Basic self-preservation as you put it requires violence.

        Yes. As a last resort. That doesn’t mean never using violence. It means using it for self preservation, not just because you disagree with them.

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          As a last resort is too late. If you can use violence successfully, it justifies itself. Waiting for when it’s time for the last resort is too late. You’re not going to stop the nazis in the spring of 1933, you would have needed to kill them in the 20s, a decade before they came to power. The same applies to any political movement.

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            You’re not going to stop the nazis in the spring of 1933, you would have needed to kill them in the 20s, a decade before they came to power.

            Except such thinking was how we got the Nazis in the first place. Hitler co-opted unions and parties who were extremised by such responses, and these were the basis of the Nazi party.