I hope for him nobody says “We recognize Britain and that Ireland is part of Britain” 🤣
Technically, one third is.
Not technically.
The country’s formal title is: The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
Northern Ireland is not part of Britain
Britain is just England and Wales
Also, I don’t see how he got that 16% is “technically” a third
And Scotland
Britain is historically just England and Wales, though colloquially now used as a shorter way of saying “Great Britain”, which is England, Wales, and Scotland.
The British isles is England, Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland (and all the smaller islands like the Hebrides, Orkneys, etc)
I’ve literally never heard that or read anything suggesting that. Britain/Britons has been used to describe the islands and peoples of the north Atlantic archipelago since ancient times with great Britain simply referring to the largest island (i.e. England+Scotland+Wales), as per wiki
Written record
The first known written use of the word was an ancient Greek transliteration of the original P-Celtic term. It is believed to have appeared within a periplus written in about 325 BC by the geographer and explorer Pytheas of Massalia, but no copies of this work survive. The earliest existing records of the word are quotations of the periplus by later authors, such as those within Diodorus of Sicily’s history (c. 60 BC to 30 BC), Strabo’s Geographica (c. 7 BC to AD 19) and Pliny’s Natural History (AD 77).[10] According to Strabo, Pytheas referred to Britain as Bretannikē, which is treated a feminine noun.[11][12][13][14] Although technically an adjective (the Britannic or British) it may have been a case of noun ellipsis, a common mechanism in ancient Greek. This term along with other relevant ones, subsequently appeared inter alia in the following works:
Pliny referred to the main island as Britannia, with Britanniae describing the island group.[15][16] Catullus also used the plural Britanniae in his Carmina.[17][18] Avienius used insula Albionum in his Ora Maritima.[19] Orosius used the plural Britanniae to refer to the islands and Britanni to refer to the people thereof.[20] Diodorus referred to Great Britain as Prettanikē nēsos and its inhabitants as Prettanoi.[21][22] Ptolemy, in his Almagest, used Brettania and Brettanikai nēsoi to refer to the island group and the terms megale Brettania (Great Britain) and mikra Brettania (little Britain) for the islands of Great Britain and Ireland, respectively.[23] However, in his Geography, he referred to both Alwion (Great Britain) and Iwernia (Ireland) as a nēsos Bretanikē, or British island.[24]Fuck off British isles is a term used by the occupiers to legitimize their occupation. The Republic is not a part of the British isles
The British Isles is a term used because Albion fell out of favor.
So what’s next, allowing China to also claim the Philippines?
I wonder who’s downvoting this
Anyone with even a smidge of knowledge about the actual situation of the Taiwan issue.
Contrary to what’s usually depicted, neither Taiwan nor China consider Taiwan as an independent country. Taiwan, or more accurately the Republic of China (ROC), claims sovereignty over this territory.
Both the ROC and the People’s Republic of China (PRC) consider Taiwan to be a province of China, it just happens that the ROC only has control over Taiwan while the PRC has control over China
Thanks, that was a clear explanation.
Err… the Philippines, the former US colony? Where currently new US military bases are being built? Which China has never ruled, attempted to rule, or said they want to rule?
You’re worried that China is going to claim the Philippines???
Which China has never ruled
True, the CCP claiming The Philippines would be seen as ridiculous by the rest of the world.
Then again, the CCP has never ruled Taiwan either…
Then again, the CCP has never ruled Taiwan either…
Oh yeah that’s like exactly the same situation.
- Send US military to “protect” one side in the Chinese civil war and occupy parts of China.
- Say you’re in favor of eventual peaceful reunification, but actually prevent it for decades.
- Break promise and claim the territory was never really part of China to begin with.
- Pretend you’re the victim and China is “expansionist”.
- World War 3?
That’s a great story you have there, you should pitch it to netflicks.
Good idea. Maybe that’ll stop the at least some of uninformed comments here.
Or, you know, you could actually respect the right to self determination of the Taiwanese people, rather than "America bad"ing your way to imperialism
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This is disgusting, quite frankly. Taiwan has every right to be an independent state and it is one. Fuck right off.
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Did you even think before writing that? What am I saying, of course you didn’t.
the ROC doesn’t consider th Taiwan to be an independent state
Because they lose any possible claim to their continuity as the rightful government of China by doing so. Also, the CCP would be quite pissy about that.
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No :)
Let’s see. How can I break this down.
I think it’s quite fair to assume that when people use the term China in isolation, they are referring to the authoritarian dictatorship state controlled by the CCP, The Peoples Republic of China.
ROC a governmental body, still holds onto the idea that it is the sole rightful “owner” of all the territories of pre-1949 China. Good for them, a little far from reality but I can’t blame them for having dreams.
A significant portion of the people of Taiwan do not under any circumstances want to be part of anything under rule of the CCP, which in reality means that they do not want to be part of the Peoples Republic of China. The ROC, on the other hand, still wants to hold into the idea of their claim over the whole region, so it’s interests are in conflict with the people’s in that regard.
Thus! Taiwan is an independent state from the PRC because the chances of the PRC being governed by anyone but the CCP is slim to none.
I note you went straight to swearing at me, quoting my own “fuck right off” which was directed at a government and not any individual. I’m sure you understand why this doesn’t make me any more likely to support your stance, but do try to be kinder.
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Pathetic. You’d think a country colonized by a foreign nation would be more sympathetic to their struggle for independence.
What? Neither side represents the indigenous population of Taiwan.
He is not technically wrong, as the Taiwanese themselves haven’t declared independence from China.
Because the PRC has set this as a red line. The Taiwanese would do it in a heartbeat.
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No, it’s because they claim sovereignty over the whole of China + parts who already are independent from the People’s Republic of China. They are not independent, just the old regime in exile. To them Taiwan is just a province of China just as it is for the PRC
Interestingly China would also be quite upset if Taiwan stopped claiming sovereignty over the mainland. To them that would signal an end to the one China policy. So Taiwan maintaining its claim to the mainland is actually to keep China happy. I don’t think the Taiwan government is under any illusion that they will someday take over the mainland.
It sounds extremely convoluted that a government considering itself “rightful” (ROC/Taiwan) who fought and lost a war with revolutionaries (PRC/“China”) would continue the claim that led to a war to not piss off the revolutionaries?
Is this some homebrew theory or do you have a source?
