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    Are people on the left saying this?

    The 2 things I’ve really not liked about biden is he

    1. Continued trump era boarder policies significantly harming refugees.

    2. Has doggedly supported israel in their current genocide campaign.

    Other wise his admin has ranged from pretty good to business as usual. 1000% better than trump, but also with some glaring problems.

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    “Stopped second Cold War and arguably saved democracy in Europe”

    Let’s not get ahead of ourselves on either count.

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      He’s actually done the exact opposite when he directly refused to supply Ukraine with long range missiles early in the conflict, when they had the manpower and logistics to attack Russia directly. But instead he doomed Ukraine to a war of attrition what they can’t possibly hope to win without a serious import of soldiers (which isn’t happening). Biden handed Ukraine to Russia.

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        hindsight is 20-20, and even then i’m not sure that would have been the right choice

        back then we there were a lot of people legitimately very worried that russia would use nukes if they felt “cheated”… international diplomacy is a tricky shit show of a game. who knows what would have happened

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    “Low unemployment” isn’t a useful metric when the minimum wage isn’t enough to live on, and the implication that people should be grateful for “low unemployment” is insulting to people who work full time and still can’t afford food and housing.

    Its counterproductive to cite unemployment numbers when trying to rally support for current representatives, unless you can also show that wages are increasing.

    Simply referring to the number of jobs that exist feels dismissive and alienating. Instead, you’d get a stronger propaganda effect by citing the number of GOOD jobs that exist - jobs that pay a living wage.

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    Lol saved democracy in Europe, if the rest is just as accurate then he indeed hasn’t been very active in office

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    Imagine being 'murican – their tiny little brains can’t comprehend anything left of center.

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      Oh, we’re playing the evolved monkeys throwing shit at other groups of evolved monkeys!!! So much fun. Hey you can name your nationality and I’ll take a shit on your people, okay?

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          Oh, you’re just interested in throwing shit. Okay. A curse upon your people. Forever. Since you have zero agency and everything is my country’s fault for the rest of eternity.

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    Is unemployment actually down, or is this just like number fudging from folks who work 3 part time jobs?

    There’s a LOT more homeless people than I remember ever seeing before.

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    EO 14074 only applies to federal LEOs. Which is a very small percentage of the US police force. Definitely not “All police dept’s [sic]”.

    Just because it’s in a spongebob meme doesn’t make it true.

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    “saved democracy in Europe”? i’d argue democracy works better here than in the US of A, and certainly not due to any US president

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    Jesus Christ I swear Biden supporters are starting to get as annoying as Trump supporters.

    You can’t criticize anything about their dear leader ot they come out of the woodwork to defend him.

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      Criticise Biden all you want. Just recognize despite your criticism, he is a better option than Trump in every way (and no, there is no third option).

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        this like saying eating shit is a better option than starving. One is just slower, but it’s still going to kill you.

        Are you right that biden is better than trump? yes. Are you wrong in that, that is an argument for Biden? absolutely fucking wrong. that is an argument for-not-trump… of which there are hundreds of millions of people in the US that are both not-trump and eligible to president. there are at least “50 other democrats”, per Your-Dear-Leader-Himself that can absolutely beat trump.

        the question isn’t if Biden is better than trump- we’re still in the primaries. The question is, is Biden the best possible democrat candidate. to which that’s an emphatic “Lol, no.”

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          the question isn’t if Biden is better than trump- we’re still in the primaries. The question is, is Biden the best possible democrat candidate. to which that’s an emphatic “Lol, no.”

          Is he the Democrat candidate with the best chance of beating Trump, is the important question.

          Regarding the importance of name recognition and the low-information status of most of the electorate, that is a ‘sadly, yes’ moment.

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          I mean so who’s better than biden at this stage? I wish there was but I can’t think of anyone

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            then that is a failure of your imagination.

            There are numerous options, any one of which- with Biden’s support- prove to be a far more popular and viable candidate. or did you think “Blue no matter who” only applies to centrists? Warren, Klobechar, AOC, Buttigieg, Even bernie, Phillips. Newsom. Probably, any candidate more progressive than a stick in the mud would have a better chance than Biden winning.

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        If these are the only two options in our current system

        1.) god help us

        2.) let’s tear down the system

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          Unless class conciousness forms in America tearing the system down would result in a mad max hell scape and probably the end of of the human race because of the acceleration to climate change.

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            They don’t care. The Great Satan would be dead. That’s all that matters to them.

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          It’s the only two options in the system because the American people are not as left-wing as your average fucking Lemmy user.

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            Even as someone far more right than the average lemmy user, an 80 year old and an almost 80 year old being the only two options is absurd.

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              Yeah. God help us. But tearing down the system, while temporarily satisfying as millions die, will not be the solution we want it to be. What emerges will have the exact same problem as long as it is democratic and the American electorate is not changed.

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    Question: If I don’t think he’s the absolute perfect being (as many on the far right view Trump) does that make me a far left nutjob? Does critiquing him make me an extremist? Is me saying he could and should have done more saying he did nothing significant in office?

    The problem is you’re making it a black and white issue. The only people who that are those far-flung nutjobs you critique.

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    You probably shouldn’t open with unemployment rate to “prove” that a president did something since they have nothing to do with that. Also, great job both sidesing the far left and far right, oh enlightened centrist.

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    You do know that it’s the people demanding and fighting for those things right? Biden only did the minimum while ignoring the peoples actual needs. He answers to his sponsors and his sponsors only. He spent billions on Ukraine and Israel while ignoring the millions of Americans who are worse off now than they were 4-8 years ago. No one is denying what he did. We’re saying it wasn’t enough.

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      Let the fall of the American empire begin

      Fuck off fascist Zionist. From the river to the sea!

      No communist thinks modern day Russia is communist. Your being disingenuous and I bet you would rather allow liberal fascism on her than socialist views you disagree with. Typical liberal censoring communism because it challenges uour brainwashed reality.

      This you?

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          Yep, all of that is me. I don’t post things I’m not willing to stand by.

          The worldnews ban is odd though. I don’t remember trying to evade any ban (and I wasn’t aware that I was banned to begin with)

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          “Genocide against Palestinians bad. Genocide against Israelis BASED!” - Tankie shitheads

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            Hol up, where in your quotes did they mention genocide against Israelis? Supporting the end of Palestinian genocide and apartheid isn’t calling for genocide of Israelis.

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              From the river to the sea!

              “From the river to the sea!” is a slogan used by both Israelis and Palestinians in support of ethnonationalist aims at exterminating the other from the Levant.

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                  Someone hasn’t been paying attention to the demands of Palestinian nationalists. Or, for that matter, the bootlicking support of some Western leftists for the ethnic cleansing of the ‘settler’ population of Israel (used explicitly in reference to all of Israel, not the illegal settlements in the West Bank)

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              That tankies say that? Or that genocide is only bad when done on the Wrong People™?

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                It’s only genocide if it’s against members of a race. I have nothing against the Jewish community, but the world would be better off without the nation of Israel

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                  It’s only genocide if it’s against members of a race. I have nothing against the Jewish community, but the world would be better off without the nation of Israel

                  I wish I was surprised at support for genocide on here. I really wish I was.

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          1. Clearly not good faith, since “the fall of the American empire” is the commenter’s goal and not ‘doing enough’ for the American people.

          2. Genocide.

          3. ‘Liberal fascism’ is a term used by tankie shitheads who think that democracy and autocracy are the same thing.