• grendel@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    This is the degeneracy I was talking about. So if Musk isn’t important, where are other, more or equally successful Musk-less space companies? How come SpaceX was about to close down after several failed launches and only Musk was able to find the fund to continue on? Why haven’t workers chipped in?

    The degeneracy of communist way of thinking is that “capitalists” are not just evil, but also unnecessary. If the idiots would put all the efforts into actually controlling the corporations, making them follow the laws and would actually work on pushing better laws not lobbied by the corporations, first of all, I wouldn’t call them idiots, but also the world would’ve been a better place. Instead, we have neo-marxists citing a century old bullshit.

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        7 months ago

        wtf are you implying? Slur is a slur, I’m not into eugenics or whatever you imagined. Although degenerate communists should all be sent to North Korea - land of the free and equal people, the best country in the world.

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      Musk is only “important” because we allow a society where individuals can amass vast amounts of Capital and rent-seek. He is a beneficiary of an apartheid emerald mine, that’s why he’s special, born with a silver spoon.

      Workers struggle to chip in because Capitalist states are designed to be as comfortable to Capitalists as possible, as Capitalists have outsized influence. Worker co-operatives, ie Socialist businesses, have higher rates of stability and employee satisfaction, but are difficult to start as there isn’t developed infrastructure for that.

      Capitalists aren’t a group of evil people that are powerful because they are evil, that’s a child’s view of Marxism. Capitalists are a class, that share similar class interests and as such can act in a way that protects their own interests without individually collaborating. Capitalists themselves are unnecessary, unless you happen to think that Worker Co-operatives don’t exist.

      Communists and Socialists cannot control corporations, that’s an absurd idea. The closest would be Unionization, which I support heavily and donate to strike funds when I can. The idea that workers can simply lobby for better policy though is an extremely naive view of how the electoral process works. Perhaps on a local level, yes, but when you have to combat the media’s smear campaigns and work against the overwhelming forces of Capital, it’s much more effective to gain grassroots progress.

      Also, it’s cringe as fuck to call this “degeneracy,” it reeks of major neckbeard energy.

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        7 months ago

        Also, it’s cringe as fuck to call this “degeneracy,” it reeks of major neckbeard energy.

        the term quite literally describes what’s going on with neo-marxism or whatever ideas you’re pushing