X now considers the term “cisgender” a slur. On Tuesday, the platform reportedly began posting an official warning that the LGBTQ-inclusive terms could result in a ban from the platform.
  • Blaster M@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    6 months ago

    So genders are a slur now? Guess it’s they/them for everyone. Can’t be racist if you’re neutrally wrong.

    • Dojan@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      We could also just change the terms. Transgender becomes heterogender, and cisgender becomes homogender. Bit of a mouthful but since homo and hetero are in the common vernacular, it’s bound to erase all confusion that cis- and trans- comes with.

    • FMT99@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      Actually I unironically think this is right. Sexuality is a spectrum right? Then stop adding more and more stupid labels that just divide people and are wrong half the time anyway.

      • chlopczyca@sh.itjust.works
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        6 months ago

        Good call, that’s why I refuse to learn people’s names. It’s just a stupid label I might get wrong sometimes and divides people, so why would I bother learning someone’s name?

        (I’m being sarcastic, labels and pronouns are not this complex, just call people what they ask to be called)

      • Dojan@lemmy.world
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        6 months ago

        Gender isn’t sexuality.

        The prefixes cis- and trans- are rooted in Latin, and is commonly used in chemistry to describe the geometry of a molecule. The terms mean “this side of” and “opposite side of” respectively. It’s the same trans you see in “transatlantic”, as in “far side of the atlantic ocean”, and indeed the word “cisatlantic” is also in the dictionary.

        So that’s precisely what trans-and-cisgender means. A cisgender person is someone who identifies “on the same side” of the gender they were assigned at birth, ergo they identify as their birthgender.

        They’re not terms you need to identify with or use. They’re simply terms used to make a clear distinction in conversation where such a distinction is necessary.

        • Delphia@lemmy.world
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          6 months ago

          Hetero doesnt sound like “Hiss” or “Piss”. Also somehow “Hetero” isnt a slur but “Homo” will get me fired.

          Look I’m onboard with changing names, genders and pronouns, go be happy. Just saying that if the LGBTQI+ community doesnt like a word, it very quickly becomes unacceptable to use. But if I dont like a word I get told to suck it up because thats what I am… by people who very much dont like to be told who they are.

          • null@slrpnk.net
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            6 months ago

            Just saying that if the LGBTQI+ community doesnt like a word, it very quickly becomes unacceptable to use. But if I dont like a word I get told to suck it up because thats what I am…

            “When a marginalized group doesn’t like being called something deliberately hurtful, it becomes unacceptable. But how come no one cares that I don’t like how a word sounds phonetically?? That’s the same!!”

            • Delphia@lemmy.world
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              6 months ago

              Yeah, if someone from a marginalised group says “Hey, I dont like that word” I dont ask why, I dont demand an explanation. I just dont use it.

              But if I say “I dont like that word” I dont get the same consideration, I dont even get a polite “well thats dumb but whatever, ok” I get argued with and told my feelings are wrong.

              • null@slrpnk.net
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                6 months ago

                Because the word is “cisgender” and there’s no world where its a slur.

                You just don’t like how it sounds. It doesn’t marginalize or harm you in any way.

                When you act pissy that you don’t get to play at being a marginalized group, you should expect to be told off.

          • Dojan@lemmy.world
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            6 months ago

            I suppose technically instead of transgender we could use heterogender, meaning we’d say homogender instead of cisgender. The only time you’d use these terms (and similar ones, like AFAB/AMAB) is in specific situations where the nuance distinguishing the two matters.

            You don’t have to use the terms either. It’s fully acceptable to just call people men and women, particularly in contexts where their assigned sex doesn’t matter, which I’d wager for most people is pretty much all the time.

            • Delphia@lemmy.world
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              6 months ago

              Thats absolutely true. I’m just saying that I get why some people dont like the term, I think that it sounds like an insult.

              Being told I’m “Hetero-normative” doesnt feel negative, homogender sounds fine, I’ve hear the term “Gender-solid” thrown around (admittedly by right wing asshats) and that sounds fine too. Its just something about the way the word sounds that makes me feel like “Yeah, I dont like that”

              • Jaytreeman@kbin.social
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                6 months ago

                It sounds like your reasoning is similar to how a lot of people feel about the word ‘moist’.

                I wouldn’t be happy if the descriptor for me was viscerally hurtful to myself.

                I think the big difference is the world we live in. Lgbtq+ are being targeted by rightwing fucks all over the world. Talking about how you don’t like the word sounds a lot like ‘Im just asking what a woman is’. It’s not exactly transphobic, but those phrases are often used by people trying to legitimize their hate. For example, take a look at JKRs change in rhetoric.

    • ChicoSuave@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      We call him that sarcastically but idiots see it and think “he really is!” Free speech silencer should come up whenever someone searches for Elon Musk.