• AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Right?

    “people wait for MONTHS for non-emergent surgeries in places with universal healthcare”

    You mean exactly like how the doctors here schedule grandma’s knee replacement for May in January?

    There is no non-luxury millionaire concierge medicine plan eventuality here in the US where someone complains about chronic pain, gets a diagnosis that isn’t life threatening, and has the doctor pencil in their chronic pain addressing surgery for that afternoon.

    Just another empty strawman explicitly made to derail the conversation.

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      9 months ago

      Dude a millionaire isn’t even rich anymore. Any boomer who bought and paid off their house since the 80s-90s in a halfway populated area is most the way there just in home equity alone.

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    The arguments about “inefficiency” and “bureaucracy” have to be the most baffling ones to me. We already have a system that is an inefficient maze of red tape, lengthy forms, and arbitrary decisions about healthcare availability made by suits without medical training. We already pay high premiums. What “efficiencies” of capitalist healthcare are we so desperate to preserve?

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            9 months ago

            Please name an economic system on planet earth that doesnt revolve around capitalism and where it is used.

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              OP did not specify “currently in use”. You added that all by yourself. Additionally, something currently being in use does not imply it is the best possible option. We lived under fuedal socio-economic systems for thousands of years, now we live under corporatist/capitalist systems. I don’t know what will come in the future.

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            8 months ago

            pls expand:

            C a p i t a l i s m i s a n a l o g o u s t o e v o l u t i o n . I w o u l d n ’ t c a l l i t e f f i c i e n t i n a n y w a y .

            pls expound:

            Someone starts a new company. It either grows or dies. The company can change over time to adapt to it’s environment, it can split, it can spawn new companies. The ones that fit best in their environment survive. The ones that don’t die. Some companies fill a specific niche and never grow beyond that. If they grow too big they can outpace their environment and destroy it and themselves.

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    9 months ago

    As someone who moved to a country with privatized healthcare and is currently sitting in a 10 minute line to get seen, this meme can shove itself up OPs butt.

    Universal healthcare is great, but someone should be able to pay to get seen quickly. I want that option.

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      No, they should not be able to. The most in need of treatment should get treatment first, period. Paying to get seen quickly is quite literally paying to have someone higher up on the priority list bumped down due to their financial capability.

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        “Lol sorry mate, yea you’re in excruciating pain and can afford a private doctor in 2/3rds of the world, but maybe you shouldn’t have done something stupid to wind up this way. Please wait 6 hours.”

        “Why are all the wealthy people moving away???”

        I personally take pride in not giving the Canadian government their absurd tax rate anymore.

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          Damn that’s crazy bro… Go fly to your private hospital then