Donald Trump continues to suck up to the Russian president.

If Ukraine were to suddenly surrender to Russia, everything would be “much better,” at least according to Donald Trump.

During an afternoon press conference Wednesday, the Republican presidential nominee urged the Eastern European nation to submit to the foreign power, claiming that any deal, no matter how dismal for Ukraine’s freedom, would have been better than the current state of affairs.

“Ukraine is gone. It’s not Ukraine anymore. You can never replace those cities and towns, and you can never replace the dead people, so many dead people,” Trump said. “Any deal, even the worst deal, would have been better than what we have right now.


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    1 hour ago

    This is the art of the deal: give them everything they want, say it was the plan all along, and then brag how you won the negotiation.

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    It didn’t need to happen. It’s your fault. Your skirt was a finger too short, Ukraine.

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      Trump was happy enough to sell Ukraine a ton of weapons back in 2018, when Grimmer Bolton was whispering in his ear about playing both sides against the middle.

      So much of this anti-war Trumpism is deeply cynical. He says this shit because the war is unpopular, but as soon as he’s in the driver’s seat he’s going right back to the Nixon in Vietnam and Obama/Trump in Afghanistan strategy of dragging that shit out forever so he doesn’t have to admit he lost.

      People wax poetic about Trump being bad for Gaza. But this guy would be a nightmare for Europe more than anything. He’s erratic, untrustworthy, and easily swayed.

      I think Harris is shit on foreign policy, but I have no illusions about Trump immediately kicking off more conflicts internationally because one of his Beautiful Generals told him it would look cool to drop another fuel bomb or three.

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      I know we promissed to protect you from Russia explicitly when you gave up your nuclear deterents but that was like soooo long ago.

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    Who really believes Russia will stop at their current claims? Once they achieve their current goals, they’ll attack for more, and more, and more. The killing doesn’t stop.

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      Hey, they’re been doing it for 500 years straight, they gotta stop some day!

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        “Trump, I think that dictator is an imperialist! His Siberia is colonised, his Chechnya is colonised, and I’m pretty sure that Belarus is colonised!”

        “A dictator who has lots of colonies is less likely to invade countries than a dictator whose colony supplies are low”

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    If Poland were to suddenly surrender to Germany, everything would be “much better,” at least according to Donald Trump.

    During an afternoon press conference Wednesday, the Republican presidential nominee urged the Eastern European nation to submit to the foreign power, claiming that any deal, no matter how dismal for Poland’s freedom, would have been better than the current state of affairs.

    Poland is gone. It’s not Poland anymore. You can never replace those cities and towns, and you can never replace the dead people, so many dead people,” Trump said. “Any deal, even the worst deal, would have been better than what we have right now.

    It’s scary how few words I had to replace to make that work. Appeasement of a genocidal dictator does not have a good historical track record.

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      Tool or fool? It can be argued that all tools are fools which would most likely make all fools, tools.

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    Well, he might be on to something.

    I’m studying world history for the first time and I’ve so far gotten to 1938 and while I know absolutely nothing that happened after that, so far it looks like this suggestion has worked with this Hitler fellow.

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      The person Europe appeased eventually went on to go and shoot Hitler, afterall.

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      I found and old encyclopedia at a car boot sale from around that time. Looked up Germany and it mentioned that ‘Herr Hitler had done wonders for Germany’s economy but wasn’t very popular in some circles as they considered his views and policies were extreme.’

      Another fun fact - Nazis were very popular with a lot of the British Royal family and the ‘upper classes’. They were also supported by The Daily Mail newspaper, some things never change do they?

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    You can never replace those cities and towns

    For someone who nominally has a fortune in real estate, he clearly doesn’t understand how construction works.

    You absolutely can replace towns and cities, and someone is going to make a shitload of money doing just that once the conflict is over. The only question at the moment is whether they’re going to be Russians or westerners.

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    “you can never replace the dead people, so many dead people”

    Jfc this guy somehow made it? How about, “we can never replace the countless lives lost in this war, or repair the families that have been broken”

    Idk. Is it great? Nah, but I can type a thing in like 20 seconds and this orange potato just fuckin speaks like a middle school student. How the fuck