• merthyr1831@lemmy.mlEnglish
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    14 days ago

    I don’t know, her loudly and condescendingly blaring “I’m speaking” down the mic at Gaza protesters is the exact brand of managerial class smugness that is usually exclusive to white guys.

  • seaQueue@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    15 days ago

    These posts really miss the mark.

    This election was a referendum on neoliberal business as usual for the top 15% at the working class’s expense. Every election from here on out is going to be exactly this until conditions improve for the bottom 85%. Until the DNC finally gets the message that they need to offer real material improvements to the working class without condescension they’re going to continue to run unpopular candidates who lose to awful Republicans that at least have the courtesy lie to the working class in order to secure their votes.

    Stop finding scapegoats and start really looking at what went wrong or we’re looking at 20y of faux-populist Republican administrations.

    • Zorque@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      15 days ago

      The problem is, those solutions are never quick, and never easy. They take time to come to fruition. The American electorate, of all creeds, is far too impatient for that.

      Until that changes, nothing will ever be good enough. You could see it with Obama, with Biden, with Clinton… most especially with Carter… not to mention all the reps at the lower levels that people never really think about except to say “they should be president”. They weren’t perfect, but they tried. Maybe not in the best ways, maybe not enough… but they tried. But for far too many it was just broken promises… nevermind the struggle to do good while so many people around you fight for their own pound of flesh. Undercutting you at every turn to please their own electorate and win the next election.

      Yes, the politicians didn’t deliver enough, and they’re at fault for that. But the population also demands perfection, and we’re at fault for that. Especially when perfection is different for every single person.

      • seaQueue@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        15 days ago

        Every politician you mentioned by name made an effort to reach out to the working class and be inclusive of them and tell them that their interests were a priority, that’s why they won. My point is that all of these unpopular candidates talked past the working class and ignored the reality faced by most people (work doesn’t pay enough and everything is too expensive) and essentially ran on an “I’m not the Republican” platform. They misidentified the core needs of their voters and failed to be electable.

        The especially frustrating part of this is that we just did this same thing in 2016 and the democratic neoliberal committee appears to have learned absolutely nothing.

    • Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      15 days ago

      Sometimes you have to eat shit. And instead you guys devices up step aside and let the fascists through. Blame the party all you want, but it’s the voters who didn’t show up to oppose fascism that are to blame and they will suffer, not the Democratic party

      • seaQueue@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        15 days ago

        And this is why the DNC will continue to run candidates who lose elections. When you lose a popularity contest you don’t say “well clearly everyone’s wrong” you ask what the other side did better.