tbf the internet is going to consist mostly of 3 things in the future:
- propaganda
- scientific information
- funny cat videos
So I guess it’s not really a surprise that this is happening.
I was gonna say you forgot porno but then
scientific information
funny “cat” videos
cat as in pussy
The worst (to me, anyway) part is that a LOT of pirate stuff will disappear if the russian internet gets gated
Usenet still exists.
Yeah - and I’m Dolly Parton. Everything that Russian press puts out is lies. There are only two reasons why Russia isn’t an abandoned strip mall: Oil and the Internet.
This sucks, I’ve met so many very cool and interesting Russian people. The internet is meant to connect people not box them in an echo chamber.
yeah, you met two cool russian people. Millions of older family members are being bombarded with propaganda from the rest of the russians that are less cool.
Big lan party But I’m sure there will be outside content somehow
Someone will be smuggling microfiche behind the iron curtain…wait wrong century.
Xis puppet is learning another trick from its master
So turning it into an intranet.
As a queer person in a place currently under russian control, I find a lot of the comments in favour of the censorship problematic. Being gay in public is illegal here, so a lot of our queer people find communities on the Internet. Being cut off from those would be terrible.
Sorry you’ve been saddled with that, friend. I hope things get better in Russia (or Ukraine, Transnistria, or Georgia, think that covers all the places they occupy) in your lifetime
I hope I’ll escape before it collapses, otherwise life will be unnecessarily difficult for a decade or two
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I got your 6.
Oh I bet you do… 😉
Plus, there are things in Russia that I want. Like Starsector
Lol peace suckas
Russian Federation? M-more, more like, like… Russian De-Federation, am I right?
I’m only familiar with the magnificent russian defenestration rate.
It’s as close to 1 as a country can get.
Russia tests cutting
itselftheir citizens off from the rest of the internetThe state would certainly continue to interfere with the rest.
If everybody but the state is blocked, then any connections from Russia would be pretty fucking obviously the state. Honestly, that’s the best thing that could happen, since it would make figuring out what they are doing easy as fuck. But I have no doubt they are smart enough to just send their teams to China or something like North Korea does.
In the long term is will fuck over their ability to hack stuff. You’re essentially ruining people’s ability to develop talent at tech. Even if u want to train them in it as military, it would be new to them.
Nah, they’d just do what NK does and pull out the “brightest” and train them in cyber
Yeah I’m sure going full north Korea and cutting of everyone below the government is gonna work well
Red Star OS when?
Depends upon how you measure “well”.
The Kim dynasty is still going strong, three generations in. Odds are that the Kims and probably a number of people at the top would be worse-off if things changed. From their perspective, things probably are going pretty well in North Korea.
Of course, the standard of living of the North Korean public is pretty horrendous, the economy is undeveloped, and North Korea doesn’t have a lot of international clout. If your metric is whether the typical person in society is living well or whether the country is powerful, wealthy, or secure, then things aren’t going very well.
What do you mean, it’s going great. They’re even selling ammunition to Russia and sending troops over to help. From what I heard their shells even explode sometimes.
NK never had Internet. The people never lost anything. Everyone in Russia is online. They might not have toilets, but they have mobile data.
Partially right. North Korean citizens didn’t have internet, but there was a internet connection. I think it was on Reddit where someone found the Peering router and was able to get a rough network topology. It’s how red star OS was found out. They also found apple devices connected to the neteork.
Odds are that the Kims and probably a number of people at the top would be worse-off if things changed.
I mean, when you compare North Korea to the poorer parts of the periphery that capitulated to neoliberal capital - Haiti, Liberia, the former Yugoslavian states, Argentina right now, the Philippines, Lebanon or Iraq or Gaza - even the lay resident is getting out reasonably well off. They aren’t living in an active war zone, they’ve got a backwards but still functional economy, and they’re even making inroads on foreign trade at long last.
The xenophobic siege mentality of the Kims appears to have spared them a far worse fate, just by keeping the country isolated from shit like COVID and The War on Terror. They never got the windfall of the 20th century industrial economy, but they also didn’t get systematically wiped out like American Natives or Black Angolans or Rohingya Muslims.
Most of those are some wild comparisons. With all due respect, but the average North Korean “lay resident” is most def not “reasonably well off” compared to their counterpart in most of the places you listed (if that is indeed what you’re claiming). Obviously Gaza is a hellhole right now, but saying that North Koreans are better off than people in Argentina, Croatia, Albania, or even Haiti, is just pure nonsense. And there is no active war zone in the Western Balkans while North and South Korea are still technically at war. The historical comparison to colonized and oppressed peoples also seems arbitrary and illogical.
the average North Korean “lay resident” is most def not “reasonably well off” compared to their counterpart in most of the places you listed
Just the fact that they’ve got basic utilities - electricity, running water, paved roads, public health clinics - puts them head and shoulders above the undeveloped third world.
And there is no active war zone in the Western Balkans while North and South Korea are still technically at war.
Koreans haven’t exchanged fire in over 70 years. Albanian insurgents revolted in Macedonia as recently as 2001. And extremist violence at the border persists to this day
The historical comparison to colonized and oppressed peoples also seems arbitrary and illogical.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodo_League_massacre
Only if you aren’t familiar with your history. The crack up of the Korean peninsula follows a deliberate Strategy of Tension that Cold War (and colonial before that) governments employed to suppress large restive populations for centuries.
My dude, what are you even saying.
Of course they have basic utilities in the Balkans. They most definitely have access to the same basic utilities we are used to in the EU and the US. Newsflash - the Western Balkans are no longer part of the “undeveloped third world”. Contrary to what you say, “extremist violence” at the borders between these countries is extremely rare and border crossings are entirely peaceful 99.999% of the time. We can talk about border scuffles between Kosovo and Serbia, or inter-ethnic tensions throughout the region, but even that is nothing compared to the level of militarization and animosity at the 38th parallel.
I should know - I’ve travelled to every single Balkan country this past year, including Kosovo and Montenegro, as part of a border police exchange program, and enjoyed my stay at all of them.
The two Koreas haven’t exhanged fire in over 70 years? Go read the list of border incidents on Wikipedia and tell me again how they haven’t exhanged fire. Just this tear alone there has been artillery shelling in the border zone. For god sake, one country is actively testing nuclear ICBMs over the skies of the other one, and you want to compare that to the Western Balkans?! Ridiculous.
At this point I’m convinced you’ve never travelled to or studied the history and national policies of the countries you’re talking about. In other words - you’re quite obviously talking out of your arse.
The isolation may have delayed the impact of covid, but they were hit hard with it when it did get in. They cut off food imports as part of this effort and people were starving. Kim turned down vaccine offers on a couple of occasions, though they may have gotten the Russian vaccine.
To the people thinking this means Russia will no longer be able to interfere with other countries over the internet: you are probably mistaken. Disinformation teams will still be connected to the internet. All this will mean is Russians having even less exposure to the world outside of what little Vladolf wants them to see.
It will probably make the European CS2 servers less toxic though.
Less hackers in games?
🤔
Less hackers in games?
Half of the people in Jita 4-4 disappear overnight.
there’s never been a bigger hive of scum and villainy
Is this an EVE reference? It’s been at least 10 years since I’ve last played… ah the memories.
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Is this an EVE reference?
Yessuh. o7
I haven’t played in a while either, hah.
How are we going to get more treasures like “Blending in with the Russians”?
It’s not about what Russians can get from the outside, it’s more about what they can get to the outside.
I think the idea is to have some capacity to temporarily preserve some connectivity, while mowing down protesters or something like that.
They are doing such exercises for like 10 years btw.
But when the war in Ukraine stops with some “mission accomplished” ceasefire, there will likely be more violent signs of popular disagreement with Putin. Because, well, people with combat experience will come back. Some of them to ask for money on the streets, some of them to abuse their relatives and neighbors, and some of them to do crime, and some of them probably to stir shit up.
Wouldn’t it collapse their economy? Like how many Russians are digital sex workers selling content to the rest of the world? And doesn’t a shitton of money flow into Russia via ransomware
Are there even any payment processors they can use for that? I remember it being an issue when the sanctions hit.
You know, I somehow very highly doubt the Kremlin cares much about how sex workers might be affected.
Shh. Just smile and wave.
Like how many Russians are digital sex workers selling content to the rest of the world?
I think those will move somewhere with Internet connectivity.
Wow, you are really brainwashed if you think the macro-economy of a country depend on these…
No lie. Russia is a petro state above all else.
I’m just joking dingus
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Why do you sound so scratched?
