• AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml
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    18 hours ago

    None of you crypto-nazis can be honest about this discussion. You keep lying and presenting the choice as between two unequally bad options. If anything the democrats have been objectively worse in hindsight. There would have been no ceasefire if you had your way.

    Now that Trump is in office you want to put on your resistance hats again like we didn’t all just watch you rabidly support the genocide yourselves.

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      17 hours ago

      You keep lying and presenting the choice as between two unequally bad options.

      This is why people disregard your opinions, because you lie and pretend that they weren’t unequally bad options.

      They were both bad options, but saying they’re equal tells me you don’t pay attention or are intentionally lying.

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        13 hours ago

        You can hold that belief because you’re a white supremacist that doesn’t value Palestinian lives as human

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          11 hours ago

          You’re fucking hilarious.

          Wanting to minimize harm by voting for someone I don’t want to because there’s a chance of working with them to further reduce harm means I’m a white supremacist that views an abhorrently persecuted population as non-human. Kamala and Biden weren’t running around saying the USA is going to take over Gaza and turn it into a resort. Trump is.

          You play the hand you’re dealt - not the hand you wish you had my dude.

          People voted for the least shit-covered sandwich, and you insinuate that we’re monsters? Lmaooooo

          Pass whatever shit you’re smoking because it seems fun.

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            10 hours ago

            Wanting to minimize harm by voting for someone I don’t want to because there’s a chance of working with them to further reduce harm

            You voted for someone who was committing a genocide. Fuck you.

            Doubletalking nazi piece of shit.

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      14 hours ago

      It was the same cease fire that was on the table months ago, the only difference was that Isreal was going to continue the genocide until it looked good for their choice of president. And they didn’t even honor it.

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        13 hours ago

        The idea that the zionists were conditionally doing genocide for a year just to make your political opponent look good is fucking insane. You’re extremely stupid for not recognizing the relationship between the US and israel gave Biden the ability to stop it any day he wanted as well.

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          10 hours ago

          I didn’t say that. I said they were going to SAY they were going to honor a cease fire to favor a certain President. They fully intended to continue the genocide unabated either way.

          That cease fire was put forth under Biden’s watch and was “agreed to” right before the transition with the caveat that it was trumps team that succeeded. Do you not remember Biden getting raked over the coals for this when he was announcing it?

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            10 hours ago

            Real fucking annoying how you both completely sidestepped my point and doubled down on the shit you began your comment lying about not saying. So I’m just going to repeat myself. Maybe this time it will sink in.

            You’re extremely stupid for not recognizing the relationship between the US and israel gave Biden the ability to stop it any day he wanted.

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              In no way did i argue that Biden was not complicit in genocide, he could have just not given Israel weapons. He was, and trump is guilty of that. My only interjection was to point out that attributing the cease fire to trump is wrong not only because they were colluding to make trump look good, but they didn’t even honor the cease fire anyway so it’s a moot point. They both suck, trump sucks way harder.

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                attributing the cease fire to trump is wrong not only because they were colluding to make trump look good

                This is an insane thing to think. That Israel’s behavior isn’t determined by the immediate interests of its ruling class but instead the transient and superficial perception of an incoming already elected president. Just full on blueanon conspiracy brain.

                If this was done to make Trump look good, it was done by Trump using the power Biden left on the table. It wasn’t done as a favor or a handshake deal.

                but they didn’t even honor the cease fire anyway so it’s a moot point

                Do you honestly think there’s no difference between a ceasefire that’s being violated and a full on invasion and occupation? Do you think Israel remains at war with Lebanon?

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                  7 hours ago
                  1. Paying only lip service to trump cost them nothing, and pays big dividends to them. They fundamentally had to change nothing to accommodate this. This is pretty much accepted as very transparent to all but you.

                  2. At no point did i equate faking a cease fire, to an invasion. Trump plans to invade Gaza, and i believe i specifically mentioned trump was way worse.

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                    6 hours ago

                    Paying only lip service to trump cost them nothing

                    They withdrew from their corridor and released hundreds of Palestinian prisoners. What the fuck are you even talking about

                    You are fucking insane. If your perception is that ‘everyone acknowledges this’ then you are in a very stupid, very small bubble.