I have problems with people who abstained. The hard thing is, how do you change voter behavior?

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    8 hours ago

    Haha no hate I just think it’s funny you arrive at the same “Russian troll” conclusion as the people trying to relitigate the Gaza voters :P

    e: i think i misunderstood your comment, retracted

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      This push to demonize the strawman protest voters is an ongoing propaganda campaign to cause poor people to infight.

      This is a real propaganda campaign

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        Only speculation, but I believe you are right. This only started 2 days ago after Trump’s Gaza comments. It’s disheartening how easily it is to sway online discourse. Jokes on them, this only motivates me.

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          It’s also possible to run thousands of parallel chatbots to atroturf sentiment these days.

          They will even scour the internet automatically to insert themselves into any slightly relevant conversation

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        8 hours ago

        you replied to me twice. i absolutely agree with your first sentence and i believe that the second sentence is applicable to other people—it’s possible you here just misunderstood my position due to my own inclarity

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      Like anything, it’s probably a mix. There were plenty of actual Americans on the pro-Gaza side, and there were probably some Russian trolls as well. Now, there are some actual Americans trying to vent about the election. But it would also be naive to think a fair number of them aren’t Russian trolls. It’s not like the utility of manipulating an adversary nation’s political discourse ends after an election.

      Since there’s no practical benefit to relitigating this old fight, however, it makes sense to just dismiss anyone bringing it up as a Russian bot. There’s nothing to be gained by reopening this old wound among the left, but there is plenty to lose.

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        8 hours ago

        Genuine question… see my third to most recent post. It’s rhetorically identical to content I posted before, during and after the election. Based on what you see there, do you think I am a paid or otherwise illegitimate troll?

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          8 hours ago

          I mean, people say the same thing about pro-Palestine posters. Logically, what’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

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            8 hours ago

            i don’t know what that means but thanks everyone for the downvotes i guess