Neat quote saw when reading. Admitting you’re wrong in a genuine way is something you see rarely these days.

“In a 2024 interview, he said he renounced his libertarianism as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic after a libertarian group asked him to speak at an anti-mask rally. “The fact they sent me this email is something I need to be very ashamed of, and I need to change” adding “Many times when I identified as Libertarian, people said to me, ‘It’s just rich white guys that don’t want to be told what to do,’ and I had a zillion answers to that — and now that seems 100 percent accurate.”[56]”

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    I’ve always had a lot of respect for Penn’s sincere “individual freedoms as long as they don’t infringe on the individual freedoms of others” brand of libertarinism that advocated still caring about other people, and isn’t about just deferring to corporations

    I’m not surprised he no longer identifies with libertarianism, given what it’s increasingly come to mean. I may not look at the world exactly the same as him or always agree with him but people with sincere principles always have my respect.

    The way he and Teller made a show to basically showcase other magicians is super cool. If you look up Penn & Teller: Fool Us on YouTube you’ll see tons of magicians publishing their segments on the show on their personal channels, which must mean Penn and Teller negotiated that performers would have rights to their own performances and can publish them themselves.

    Thats fucking cool. (Also a great show, it makes a great YouTube binge!)

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      Anarchism is the better version of libertarianism. Left-anarchism gives all of the liberties but without capitalism. If only capitalist realists could get past that hurdle.

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        I need to learn more about anarchism as a political philosophy, I have little grasp of like, what it actually means in practice

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            I can’t get behind anarchism because there will literally always be antisocial people seeking to hurt others, physically or not. Anarchism either ignores that reality or hopes those evil people willingly attend treatment programs that hopefully make them stop hurting others. Murder, rape, theft, war, etc.

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              That’s not necessarily true, those people can be banished from a community or even violently resisted depending on your flavor.

              And even if you take your statement as fact, isn’t that a much easier problem to solve than what we’re dealing with now? Maybe some limited prisons for the worst offenders might be our only compromise

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                Banished how? They can just re enter.

                Violently resisted how? Lynch mob?

                I agree that limited prisons is preferable to the current US system but you’ve essentially just reinvented government and police in all but name.

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                  Positions of power like that in anarchist societies are usually held in rotation or fully democratically.

                  i gotta be honest with you, do you really think no anarchist philosopher ever thought of that?

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                  not exactly, it’s not theoretical this is how stuff has worked before. someone can be banished from a society and become a persona non grata that can’t get support from anyone.

                  you’re acting as if something that’s actually in our history is unimaginable