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    6 days ago

    How convenient that you ignore the rapes and murders and just argue about their slogan.

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        6 days ago

        So that’s your bar to justify rape and murder of innocent people, that others have done it.

        You are evil

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          I think it’s a perfectly reasonable conclusion that when you’re forced to grow up in an violent environment you can also end up being a violent person. I don’t condone the actions of Hamas but in the context of the systemic violent oppression by Israel I can see see the “justification” of their actions.

          As for being evil. I find it far more evil that you’re deliberately trying to villanize victims of oppression. Palestinians couldn’t end the conflict even if they wanted to, and I’m sure most of them want to. They can’t end the conflict because they’re the ones being oppressed, their actions of violence are a response to an oppressive regime. Israel could easily end this conflict in a peaceful manner, but they choose to continue the oppression.

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              Yes, you’re perpetuating systemic oppression, murder and sexual abuse.

              Let me put it very plainly. Let’s say someone is bullied for a year and every week for a year the target of bullying gets beaten up. And then after a year they decide to throw a punch at the bully. Which of the two reactions sounds less evil? “obviously the bully had it coming they’ve been beating the shit out of the other person.” or “I can’t believe what a violent piece of shit the other person is for punching the bully.”?

              In case it’s not clear, you’re the latter calling people terrorists for being violent against the violent oppression that they’ve been subjected to for decades.

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                Terrorists don’t throw punches at bullies, they rape and murder civilians, and that’s what youre trying to defend here.

                Absolute evil, and I mean you

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                  I’m not defending that. I already said I don’t condone their acts of violence. I’m simply stating their actions are in response to the systemic atrocities Israel enacts upon them. That’s not absolute evil, that’s just stating the obvious. What is absolutely evil is your complete refusal to accept that even as possibility.

                  We’re done now. You can continue barking like the Israeli lapdog you are, I don’t give a fuck. I have zero respect for soulless monsters like you.

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                    Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.
                    

                    ~~Jean-Paul Sartre