Hi folks, out of pure curiosity, I was poking some graphs.
It’s been about half a year since the big API protest, so I was curious to see what Lemmy’s crtitical mass looks like, what the staying power is, etc. Screenshots taken from https://the-federation.info/platform/73 on 2024-01-09. I’m posting screenshots because they’re a snapshot in time, and because that stats server is very slow.
Because I’m posting on lemmy.ca, I’ll post quite a few related to this instance, but it’s probably more widely applicable and you can get graphs from your instance too. I’ll also post some lemmy.world and lemmy.ml graphs, since they make interesting points of comparison – biggest server, and original server.
First, lemmy-wide total users count, where this is a rolling one month window. If a user was online within the month, they count here.
First observation – there’s some jagged edges in the graph due to things popping in and out of the federation. So it’s probably more useful to look at single servers. Lemmy.world came online pretty much coincidentally with the API protest and had open registration, so it makes a good data point. You can see the surge of users, then the plateau of the people who stuck around:
Lemmy.ml below has a similar curve, plus some sort of data artefact.
As does lemmy.ca, below:
I suspect the data artifact is related to the transition from 0.18 to 0.19 and something changed in the way active users was counted in between. Lemmy.world is still running 0.18.5.
Notes: The difference between the peak and the plateau is higher on lemmy.world and lemmy.ml – I suspect this is because they were more popular places to sign up during the protest. Whereas lemmy.ca has retained more users, as a percentage. Still, the total number of active users on each server is quite low.
In the same order (total, lemmy.world, lemmy.ml, lemmy.ca), total posts. The slope of this line represents post rate. Steeper line is better. Flat line means dead instance.
And comments. I wish there was a comments to posts ratio, which would be some indication of engagement levels. But you can sort of work it out.
Anyway, looks like post rate has decreased slightly since the initial bump, but are still looking good. But the comment rate hasn’t flattened as much. So the users that were retained seem to be more engaged than the users from the initial bump. I think this is a good thing for the health of lemmy. Likewise, the growth in supported apps, improvements to the software (Scaled sort in 0.19 is night-and-day better than anything prior!), and others will allow lemmy to not only survive, but be ready for whatever influx happens next.
I want to send a special shout out to all the admins, particularly on my home instance of lemmy.ca, and the coders who keep improving things. Thanks for giving us all a home!
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This is a great breakdown.
I am glad to see that the outcome is higher engagement vis a vis comments; I would also acknowledge generally how high level and quality the discussions are on the federation overall.
I kind of hope there are manageable streams of users coming in, because I really like it here in its current iteration. I don’t really worry about new content so much as cool people to talk to, and honestly most of the people here are worth engaging with.
Btw, Lemmy.world is still on 0.18.5, which may be one reason you aren’t seeing the data artifact on it, if that is due to having switched to 0.19.
Just speaking from personal experience, one reason we may not be seeing new users is the LARGE number of technical hurdles. e.g. I was on Kbin for most of the last few months but last week finally gave up on it when I could not ever visit the server (though that was only the last straw in a long line of many issues). I did a bunch of research and found that Discuss.Online was highly recommended, plus located at least in my hemisphere, though just today gave up on it too b/c none of my comments for the last two days are showing up on other servers - especially lemmy.world, but also some such as midwest.social that were running the same version of Lemmy (0.19.1). (I checked: yes they are all federated, no I am not blocked or appear in any of the affected modlogs, etc.) i.e., “% uptime” is not the only metric that matters.:-P
That said, I’m never going back to Reddit, and never did join Twitter/X - I will give up on social media entirely prior to wallowing in that filth. Technology issues aside, the people on Lemmy are worth talking to, period.
the people on Lemmy are worth talking to, period
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That’s how I look when my bidet starts up.
I give bonus points to anyone who did this to look at the slopes of the graph to look for inflection and change in slope… https://xkcd.com/2701/
This is great. LOL. I use the tilt method to read the tiny print on medicine bottles. they oftwn use a typface with a tiny aspect ratio and squeezed so tight together is is difficult to read. Since the letters are tall, you can tilt the bottle down and see the words with a more natural aspect ratio
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I suspect the data artifact is related to the transition from 0.18 to 0.19 and something changed in the way active users was counted in between. Lemmy.world is still running 0.18.5.
Yep. Pre-0.19, only posts and comments were counted as activity. 0.19 now includes voters.
Because the “Reddit API changes” are a big epoch in Lemmy’s history (and these graphs show it), I’m really curious to see if/when there will be another mass exodus or another “big Lemmy/federation moment”.
I’m putting a small amount of money on “Lemmy gets mentioned in a viral news article” ;)
With Digg to Reddit, there were four or five waves that contributed to Reddit’s growth. I imagine it will be similar.
The reddit porn ban after IPO will be a big boost. Those damn advertisers calling the shots again…
Yep. IPO is coming, and Reddit admin have plenty of time to make more dumb decisions in time to try to squeeze more valuation out of it. As things happen people will migrate a bit at a time with the occasional media shoutout. Idk whether a huge user explosion part two will happen, but we shall see.
Following that I expect things won’t change much over there for a few months or even a couple years but the desire for “year-over-year profit” is going to take hold and screw that entire platform from top to bottom.
On the other hand, yes Lemmy still has issues (a lot on the moderation side), and various server admins have their disagreements and contrivances, but I am optimistic that Lemmy will continue to improve on the whole.
Just keep welcoming new non-troll/spammer users with kindness, compassion and open arms, and at the core that will be all we need to maintain a healthy social network.
