cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/28249577

Top Trump official Stephen Miller’s recent declaration that anyone who “preaches hate for America” will face deportation has ignited alarm online, with critics warning the statement disregards First Amendment protections.

Social media users and legal analysts raised immediate concerns, pointing out that expressing dissent or criticism of the government is protected under the First Amendment. Some worried the administration was veering into authoritarian territory.

The backlash has reignited broader debates over the limits of free speech, especially as civil liberties fall under scrutiny. While immigration enforcement remains a core theme of President Donald Trump’s platform, critics are increasingly questioning whether rhetoric like Miller’s is a precursor to more aggressive suppression of dissent.

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    That goes against the first amendment, which I think makes it anti-american. Can Stephen Miller start by deporting himself?

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        They never were. Unless they added things that helped them or a cohort at a given time. cf: prohibition, its repeal, etc.

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          I don’t think they care about their hypocrisy, tbh - I think they view themselves as more American while dismantling America. This is just how reactionary coups work, they appeal to nationalism, but insist on reverting to an older status quo as a more authentic version of that nationalism. (It’s a re-invisioning of America in a sense.)

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              yes, and in some sense it doesn’t really matter if even the founding of America conflicts with their America - they believe their America is more American. This is the reactionary mindset, that the past is best while not even having the education to know what the past was. Instead the ideals are set as an agenda by whatever the reactionary institutions say the past is, and in political movements those ideals and details often change as needed for political gains. Unfortunately this is not just exclusive to reactionaries (the Russian revolution brought about Stalin after all and the French revolution led to Napoleon), but I do tend to think reactionary minds are more quick to accept reality based on authority rather than reason or evidence, and that makes them more politically convenient as followers.

              All the more reason to view the reactionaries as not really invested in any particular past or tradition, but instead as being influenced by certain groups and people - those most visible and influential often being more like grifters than theologians or stewards of tradition.

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        They always hated what the Constitution actually has in it, like no endorsement of their god, for instance.

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    I love America. I swore to defend it against all enemies. I do not love what it is doing or who the government defines as enemies.

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    Fuck America, Fuck Trump, Fuck these nazi pricks, and congratz, you’ll never have to deport me, I won’t ever visit your shithole of a country.

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    Really hate the milktoast way these articles are written. “critics warning” “ignited alarm online” “backlash has ignited debate” ffs just say the Trump admin announced the end of free speech. That is literally what happened.

    Some worried the administration was veering into authoritarian territory.

    FFS WE’VE BEEN THERE THIS ISN’T VEERING THIS IS FOLLOWING A STRAIGHT LINE ALONG THE PATH WE’VE ALREADY BEEN ON FUCK

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    But he’s doing it right now??? Ohh he’s conflating the current administration with America even though all their values are in complete contradiction to everything this country is supposed to stand for. Got it.

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    What does “hate for america” even mean? Does “I think mcdonalds fries are garbage” count? or “republicans are whiny little maggots”?

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    Whats that joke Reagan cracked back in the about Russian Soviets not allowed to criticise their government?

    Yea, huh. Wonder what happened to that.

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    Disagreeing with the dear leader will also be the same as preaching hate for America

    Not clapping enthusiastic enough will also be the same as preaching hate for America

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    So let’s say that SCOTUS rules that this policy infringes on the first amendment. Then they deport another person. Who’s to stop doing it?

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    They are going to milk the extrajudicial rendition until there is an actual outbreak of violence to try and stop it.

    Then Trump will send those people involved into a gulag, too.

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      Agreed the purpose is to cause people to act and then move in to crush them. All the while playing the victim. Of course that play doesn’t always work.

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    Fuck Steven Millier the majority of Americans hate the POS fucktard! The majority of Americans hate the way the moronic fat orange slob trump has changed democracy in America and find him repulsive, disgusting and a complete fucking idiot along with his cabal of asshat republicans who can fucking shove christianity, their Bible and their ideology up their privileged white asses! Nothing but POS cowards, white trash who hide behind their walls and use the moron low IQ ICE Agents who probably average an IQ of 2! Can’t wait to see America fight back…in time those agents will regret their I’ll will!