That’s the thing, though: many people advocating for UBL argue that it should replace ALL benefits (like the person I responded to) because, according to them, the UBL would cover all issues already. Generally speaking, people who argue like that are under 30 and haven’t had any serious contact with chronic conditions and don’t even consider the existence of anything worse than a broken leg.
Special needs (not only disabilities but all sorts of special circumstances) are complex, and UBL is a simple solution for complex issues. And a system like UBL needs to work for everyone, not only for most people.
First guy was like “UBI should replace everything”. Then I said “Watch out, everything is not a good idea because e.g. health care costs vary wildly”. Second guy was like “Nobody is arguing for UBI without socialized healthcare”. To which I said “Well, some people do”. And then you came here and said “But second guy literally said he wants socialized healthcare”.
Here, let me quote his last paragraph before the edit for you:
I may not be the target audience though as I also totally want socialized healthcare, free education extending into the collegiate level, and a UBI replacing all welfare programs, because those fall under the “General Welfare” set out by the Constitution and those things would cost less than what we have now for far better outcomes.
See that “I also totally want socialized healthcare” line?
I would like to point out that I did 100% say Universal Healthcare, and nowhere did I implay keeping our shitty healthcare system with a UBI. To further clarify, UBI should only replace welfare programs, so stuff like food stamps, WIC, TANIF, state welfare, social security, etc. because those have restrictions and fuck people over almost as many times as they help them.
Social Security probably won’t be solvent in 50 years, food stamps are great until you make a dollar over the max allowable and lose all food assistance, WIC is great until your infant is just a little older and you lose all assistance. SSDI takes years to begin receiving and is, once again, subject to being dropped for any of a variety of reasons.
That’s the thing, though: many people advocating for UBL argue that it should replace ALL benefits (like the person I responded to) because, according to them, the UBL would cover all issues already. Generally speaking, people who argue like that are under 30 and haven’t had any serious contact with chronic conditions and don’t even consider the existence of anything worse than a broken leg.
Special needs (not only disabilities but all sorts of special circumstances) are complex, and UBL is a simple solution for complex issues. And a system like UBL needs to work for everyone, not only for most people.
He literally said “I totally want socialized healthcare”.
Follow the thread, read the context.
First guy was like “UBI should replace everything”. Then I said “Watch out, everything is not a good idea because e.g. health care costs vary wildly”. Second guy was like “Nobody is arguing for UBI without socialized healthcare”. To which I said “Well, some people do”. And then you came here and said “But second guy literally said he wants socialized healthcare”.
Here, let me quote his last paragraph before the edit for you:
See that “I also totally want socialized healthcare” line?
Wasn’t there in the original version.
I would like to point out that I did 100% say Universal Healthcare, and nowhere did I implay keeping our shitty healthcare system with a UBI. To further clarify, UBI should only replace welfare programs, so stuff like food stamps, WIC, TANIF, state welfare, social security, etc. because those have restrictions and fuck people over almost as many times as they help them.
Social Security probably won’t be solvent in 50 years, food stamps are great until you make a dollar over the max allowable and lose all food assistance, WIC is great until your infant is just a little older and you lose all assistance. SSDI takes years to begin receiving and is, once again, subject to being dropped for any of a variety of reasons.