• Whirlybird@aussie.zone
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    1 day ago

    Just so we’re clear - you’re calling for an end to democracy in Germany? You’re asking for the will of the people to be ignored and actually outlawed?

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          21 hours ago

          So according to you, the people who want everyone with the wrong kind of mustache to be deported, who want citizenships revoked, who want to “remove the outmoded political party system”, who are already obstructing the judicial system in Thurinigia, who want to defund public media because it’s “too woke”, who want to gut universities because they are “too woke”, who want to fuck up the environment because - guess what - also “woke”, and who want to overthrow the constitutional order are not the fascists?

          Fwiw, German law explicitly allows the government to ask the constitutional court to check whether a party behaves consistently with constitutional order, and if not, outlawing them based on that. The German constitution includes some learnings from WWII: This includes a paragraphs on non-discrimination, on the individual right to asylum, on outlawing parties that threaten to overthrow the constitutional order.

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            29 minutes ago

            Did you just delete my comment and reply to it so no one can see what I actually said, while completely fabricating the message of what I said? Lol

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              I had multiple reports on the comment, you know, you called people here “nazis”. I don’t know in what sense you feel mischaracterized though. There is no direct or indirect quote from you in my comment.

              The question still stands though: We have a group of people that exhibits a bunch of characteristics of nazis (see above). And you say that the people who don’t like them are the nazis.

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                I’m the one being called a nazi repeatedly! Lol

                Also your post literally starts with

                so according to you

                And then goes on to say a bunch of stuff that I DID NOT SAY NOR EVEN HINT AT - and then you say there was no mischaracterization? No “indirect quote”?

                You literally made up things and said that it was “according to me”!

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      22 hours ago

      I am not the one you are asking, but personally, in my honest opinion: An “emergency government”, lets say with a 20 year term, removing far right parties, doing the necessary changes to massively reduce our climate impact and prepare for the ineviteable fallout from climate change and doing other reforms wouldn’t be THAT bad of an idea…

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        23 minutes ago

        It absolutely would be a horrible idea lol. wtf are you talking about?!

        You’re asking for a dictatorship as long as it’s one that says they’ll do what you want. If you make rules allowing for a political party to remove any competitors and install themselves in power for as long as they want, how could it possibly go wrong?. Jesus christ

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          No, what i am dalking about is: We WILL see a rise of an authoritarian party in germany in the near future, as we see with many countries worldwide at the moment. And i say: IF we are already doomed to have an authoritarian / fascist regime, i prefer it to be on the ecofascist side. And if there will be an opportunity for such an regime, well, i WILL support it.

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        22 hours ago

        Yeah, “emergency powers” have never caused any problems in the past …

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          22 hours ago

          What else can you do when > 50% of the population is unwilling to help solving the single most dangerous problem in human history?

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            15 minutes ago

            See here is where your issues begin. You’re saying that what the majority want is wrong. You’ve decided that you know what is factually correct, you’re smarter than them all, and that the majority should not get a say.

            You want fascism. You want authoritarianism. You think that you and your opinions are non debatable correct, and want them dictated to everyone.

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            21 hours ago

            Not sure, but installing an unelected goverment and abolishing elections for 20 years is literally fighting fascism with fascism, so let’s not do that.

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              14 minutes ago

              It’s not even fighting fascism with fascism, it’s just straight up wanting fascism as long as it’s his “team” in control.

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              21 hours ago

              I am a bit fatalistic and perhaps a bit on the doomer side, but i am pretty sure we will get fascism one way or the other soon… and if this is ineviteable, i am very much in favour of installing ecofascism instead of other forms.

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                13 minutes ago

                OK so at least you admit that you just want fascism where the party you like is in control.