Your view of a “democratic society” is not based on actual definitions.
You may need to look at definitions. You are simply arguing against modern democracy. It may comply with the Greek definition of the term but things have changed.
If 75% of the population agree on something, do you think that the 25% should get to overrule it?
If those 75% unjustly take away the rights of a part of the citizenship? Obviously the 25% overrule them. Human rights come before majority vote.
I displayed no enthusiasm whatsoever.
Tell that to the person responsible for your phrasing.
Trump just won 53%….what if JD Vance wins 63% next time?
Trump somehow keeps dropping hints that people won’t need to vote again. Weird how that happens, especially given that the admin ignores parliament and law and due process wherever it can. Trump’s ratings of course drop right now. The only reason for him to even allow another election to go ahead is if there’s propaganda win to be wrung out of it.
Would you agree that they won the democratic election and should form government? Would you agree that the democratic process was followed?
For one thing, in Germany legal proceedings both could and should have occurred against Afd at some point in the past years. Germany shouldn’t even be at this point, the constitution does allow a way out. Politicians of democratic forces literally didn’t do their job.
The constitution does also include Art. 20 p. 4, legitimizing a general strike against people trying to undo the constitutional order. Realistically, it likely wouldn’t happen nearly at the level needed to make a difference though.
In any case, no, you shouldn’t give power to obviously antidemocratic forces.
Democracy has nothing to do with social norms etc. It has nothing to do with feelings etc. It is a system of electing a government.
Obviously the 25% overrule them
No, not obviously lol. That’s not how democracy works. It’s literally not democracy. How can the 25% overrule them even if they wanted to? That’s a dictatorship.
Tell that to the person responsible for your phrasing
No, I’ll tell the person responsible for your comprehension skill that they need to go back to the drawing boards because it didn’t stick. The point that was being made was that you’re saying that even in an absolutely overwhelmingly large never before happened majority winning vote, you think the other side should win……and you still think that’s democracy! Hahaha. The point was to make the point as extreme as it possibly can be to point out how bad your logic is there. The 1% of voters don’t get to dictate to the 99% just because the 1% think they’re morally superior. The 99% win because thats democracy. You don’t just give veto powers to the side you support lol.
Trump keeps dropping hints that people won’t need to vote again
Rubbish lol. Show us these hints - and no, the pre-election message to the Christian’s who never usually vote of “vote this once and you won’t have to again because we’ll fix everything” was NOT saying that. It was saying “just vote me in this time and then go back to not voting because everything will be so good more and more people will just keep voting for me”.
Making amendments to the constitution is not the same as “trying to undo the constitutional order”. This shouldn’t even need to be said. Constitutional amendments are a thing. They happen. Americans love their amendments, especially the second one.
Again your argument boils down to “my party needs to become authoritarian fascists and destroy democracy so the party I don’t like doesn’t get into power”, and you can’t see how that is absolutely terrible and goes against everything the western world stands for, everything democracy stands for.
You don’t get to install yourself as dictators because you think the other side will install themselves as dictators at some stage. That’s not how it works lol. You are the bad guys in that situation.
Kudos on not deleting every comment of mine btw. We’re making progress!
You may need to look at definitions. You are simply arguing against modern democracy. It may comply with the Greek definition of the term but things have changed.
If those 75% unjustly take away the rights of a part of the citizenship? Obviously the 25% overrule them. Human rights come before majority vote.
Tell that to the person responsible for your phrasing.
Trump somehow keeps dropping hints that people won’t need to vote again. Weird how that happens, especially given that the admin ignores parliament and law and due process wherever it can. Trump’s ratings of course drop right now. The only reason for him to even allow another election to go ahead is if there’s propaganda win to be wrung out of it.
For one thing, in Germany legal proceedings both could and should have occurred against Afd at some point in the past years. Germany shouldn’t even be at this point, the constitution does allow a way out. Politicians of democratic forces literally didn’t do their job.
The constitution does also include Art. 20 p. 4, legitimizing a general strike against people trying to undo the constitutional order. Realistically, it likely wouldn’t happen nearly at the level needed to make a difference though.
In any case, no, you shouldn’t give power to obviously antidemocratic forces.
Democracy has nothing to do with social norms etc. It has nothing to do with feelings etc. It is a system of electing a government.
No, not obviously lol. That’s not how democracy works. It’s literally not democracy. How can the 25% overrule them even if they wanted to? That’s a dictatorship.
No, I’ll tell the person responsible for your comprehension skill that they need to go back to the drawing boards because it didn’t stick. The point that was being made was that you’re saying that even in an absolutely overwhelmingly large never before happened majority winning vote, you think the other side should win……and you still think that’s democracy! Hahaha. The point was to make the point as extreme as it possibly can be to point out how bad your logic is there. The 1% of voters don’t get to dictate to the 99% just because the 1% think they’re morally superior. The 99% win because thats democracy. You don’t just give veto powers to the side you support lol.
Rubbish lol. Show us these hints - and no, the pre-election message to the Christian’s who never usually vote of “vote this once and you won’t have to again because we’ll fix everything” was NOT saying that. It was saying “just vote me in this time and then go back to not voting because everything will be so good more and more people will just keep voting for me”.
Making amendments to the constitution is not the same as “trying to undo the constitutional order”. This shouldn’t even need to be said. Constitutional amendments are a thing. They happen. Americans love their amendments, especially the second one.
Again your argument boils down to “my party needs to become authoritarian fascists and destroy democracy so the party I don’t like doesn’t get into power”, and you can’t see how that is absolutely terrible and goes against everything the western world stands for, everything democracy stands for.
You don’t get to install yourself as dictators because you think the other side will install themselves as dictators at some stage. That’s not how it works lol. You are the bad guys in that situation.
Kudos on not deleting every comment of mine btw. We’re making progress!