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tree@lemmy.ml to traingang@hexbear.netEnglish · 1 month ago

Oxford Professor: Cycling is 10 times more important than electric cars for reaching net-zero cities

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Oxford Professor: Cycling is 10 times more important than electric cars for reaching net-zero cities

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Cycling is ten times more important than electric cars for reaching net-zero cities
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Active travel can help tackle the climate crisis earlier than electric vehicles – even if you swap the car for a bike for just one trip a day.

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/27953268

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  • sewer_rat_420 [he/him, any]@hexbear.net
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    I think we should pay attention to the general trend of small form factor EVs in China. Yeah, the cars they make are cool, but they also have tons of small electric cargo scooter/moped things. And plenty of places to charge them for practically free.

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      That sounds amazing, fuck I wanna live in the 21st century so bad

    • durruticore [any, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      One question, asking mostly out of ignorance. Aren’t EVs not supposed to be a long term solution, because of all the rare earth materials going into the batteries (lithium neodymium etc) I know they’re still used for other things, and they’re less polluting than fossil fuel vehicles, but aren’t there better options?

      • Enjoyer_of_Games [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        There is no long term plan, there’s barely a short term plan.

        Have to hope EV’s are a stop gap to real public transport and city design (highly unlikely) or that batteries that don’t require rare earth materials are developed (possible but not given).

  • WizardOfLoneliness [they/them, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    You’ll need to invent an air conditioned bicycle if you want me to ride

    • sisatici [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      Have you considered that you wouldn’t have needed air conditioner if it wasn’t for cars (OK there are exceptions places for this)

    • buckykat [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      With anti-veganism banned, cars are the last remaining thing that gets hexbears to post like federated users

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      this is carbrained in the sense that the article is proposing much needed vast changes to urban transportation and the first inclination is “but what about meeeeeeeeeee”

      I mean god’s sake the byline is “Active travel can help tackle the climate crisis earlier than electric vehicles – even if you swap the car for a bike for just one trip a day.”, figure it out

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        meme ememe mem em em ememe meme mem emem mee

    • ProfessorOwl_PhD [any]@hexbear.net
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      If you ride fast you provide your own air conditioning

      • WizardOfLoneliness [they/them, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        I can assure you and the other person that when it’s hot and humid enough that doesn’t work

        • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]@hexbear.net
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          rip to your clothes but i’m built different.

          • WizardOfLoneliness [they/them, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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            i can respect being built different

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      have you considered that the buses run better with fewer cars and more bikes, and not just like, whether this poses a moral quandary to you personally?

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        Have you considered that you’re making up a guy in your head and arguing with him about some shit that i didn’t say and offered no opinion on

        whether this poses a moral quandary to you personally

        jesse-wtf

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          You’ll need to invent an air conditioned bicycle if you want me to ride

          no one asked you to ride a bike, what the actual fuck are you commenting if you don’t have an opinion to express. we’re talking about the death of millions from climate catastrophe in the next hundred years and you’re being myopic.

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            we’re talking about the death of millions from climate catastrophe in the next hundred years

            Wild levels of optimism on hexbear today.

            • Llituro [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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              figured i’d rather wildly underestimate than check the presumably more horrifying real numbers.

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      Once you hit about 15 mph on an e-bike, the breeze it pretty much equivalent.

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        Wear a crop top for better airflow

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    EVs always feel silly when I ride my ebike next to them. They’re the least-offensive kind of car, but that’s so much metal/infrastructure/space going into doing the same thing my bike does. All of that is hostile to the environment in so many more ways than just fuel consumption.

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      Fundamentally you can’t really out engineer yourself out of the fact that using about 2 tons of metal to drive an average of 1,2 passengers somewhere is just inefficient

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        It is worse than that. They use some rare earth minerals too and thus, they release around 50 tons of carbon dioxide per car compared to 20-30 tons of carbon dioxide per combustion car

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