Yeah I can read hindi…it’s there but my point is… He said indian diplomat P. Ratnam talked to the press about Stalin’s words but Indian ambassador to Moscow was S. Radhakrishnan. Kind of confusing though.
It’s extremely likely, to the point that it would be inconceivable that it wouldn’t be the case, that the Indian Embassy had multiple diplomats assigned to it and that P. Ratnam was Charge d’affaires or another embassy staffer with a lower rank than ambassador.
its strange but I didn’t find anything from the press reports either or any other historical official document. This hindi report was written by an obscure ultra left group but hats off to the publication , the way they have written about Stalin which is " Stalin is the name by which the western capitalist class and enemies are still haunted after 100 years " XD
As someone who does deep dives into finding historical sources to confirm what is claimed in secondary sources, believe me that it’s actually really hard work to turn up primary sources from the era prior to digitisation of media (as before the period where stuff like newspapers were regularly added into online archives as searchable text — say around the 70s or 80s.)
No shade on India here but because it was colonised for such a long time, it never had a chance to industrialise and develop its archiving and its historical record comprehensively while under the boot of colonialism in the same way that countries like the US or Britain have been able to, not until recently anyways, so it’s probably a later era that you’re looking at when it comes to newspapers being digitised.
What you’d likely need to do would be to go digging through a the major newspapers of the time in that year, likely in national archives or in the archives of major newspaper companies, in order to find the quote in question because it was likely published in the print news first and later quoted in this flyer. And I’m talking stuff which is likely scanned but never indexed or converted to searchable text. Which would be a ton of legwork to do and there’s no guarantee that you’d be able to find the exact newspaper article or that the newspaper article itself has been preserved in archives. It might even require searching in hard copy archives.
I appreciate your skepticism and it’s definitely an open question as to the historicity of this quote but at the same time, when you’re digging this far back into history for a particular source (especially when it’s across languages), it quickly become an especially arduous task to find primary sources. It’s the sort of thing that you’d likely need to get in contact with a historian who specialises in the famine from the perspective of India to ask for their assistance with tbh.
its difficult to get anything right about Stalin , he was the most slandered persona in history of Russia , India has very much shifted towards pro west alliance . No media will say positive about USSR or Stalin . I read many books about Stalin in Bengali and translated from Russian language. I strictly don’t endorse this statement , similarly I have skepticism about that Molotov book . I mean in that book Molotov says Khruschev son was a traitor then in wiki and in the Soviet archives it says he died by a plane crash and he was buried with honors . Regarding Stalin everything is a mystery XD.
Yeah I can read hindi…it’s there but my point is… He said indian diplomat P. Ratnam talked to the press about Stalin’s words but Indian ambassador to Moscow was S. Radhakrishnan. Kind of confusing though.
https://www.revolutionarydemocracy.org/rdv12n1/3convers.htm
It’s extremely likely, to the point that it would be inconceivable that it wouldn’t be the case, that the Indian Embassy had multiple diplomats assigned to it and that P. Ratnam was Charge d’affaires or another embassy staffer with a lower rank than ambassador.
its strange but I didn’t find anything from the press reports either or any other historical official document. This hindi report was written by an obscure ultra left group but hats off to the publication , the way they have written about Stalin which is " Stalin is the name by which the western capitalist class and enemies are still haunted after 100 years " XD
As someone who does deep dives into finding historical sources to confirm what is claimed in secondary sources, believe me that it’s actually really hard work to turn up primary sources from the era prior to digitisation of media (as before the period where stuff like newspapers were regularly added into online archives as searchable text — say around the 70s or 80s.)
No shade on India here but because it was colonised for such a long time, it never had a chance to industrialise and develop its archiving and its historical record comprehensively while under the boot of colonialism in the same way that countries like the US or Britain have been able to, not until recently anyways, so it’s probably a later era that you’re looking at when it comes to newspapers being digitised.
What you’d likely need to do would be to go digging through a the major newspapers of the time in that year, likely in national archives or in the archives of major newspaper companies, in order to find the quote in question because it was likely published in the print news first and later quoted in this flyer. And I’m talking stuff which is likely scanned but never indexed or converted to searchable text. Which would be a ton of legwork to do and there’s no guarantee that you’d be able to find the exact newspaper article or that the newspaper article itself has been preserved in archives. It might even require searching in hard copy archives.
I appreciate your skepticism and it’s definitely an open question as to the historicity of this quote but at the same time, when you’re digging this far back into history for a particular source (especially when it’s across languages), it quickly become an especially arduous task to find primary sources. It’s the sort of thing that you’d likely need to get in contact with a historian who specialises in the famine from the perspective of India to ask for their assistance with tbh.
its difficult to get anything right about Stalin , he was the most slandered persona in history of Russia , India has very much shifted towards pro west alliance . No media will say positive about USSR or Stalin . I read many books about Stalin in Bengali and translated from Russian language. I strictly don’t endorse this statement , similarly I have skepticism about that Molotov book . I mean in that book Molotov says Khruschev son was a traitor then in wiki and in the Soviet archives it says he died by a plane crash and he was buried with honors . Regarding Stalin everything is a mystery XD.