• machiabelly [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
    281·
    9 days ago

    I think the Ukraine war put the pacifist crowd firmly into the US hegemony camp. Everyone seems to think the war is entirely about Russian territorial expansion, rather than responding to NATO. If you believe that it’s only natural you’ll drink the red white and blue cool aid

    • TreadOnMe [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
      10·
      8 days ago

      Ukraine was a relief to most libs I knew because it finally allowed them to be the mask off jingoistic war hawks they always wanted to be, but couldn’t because its a bad look. Which is why stuff like Trump being fully extortionist really makes them mad, because then it is giving up the game of it actually being about influence and material resources and not ‘protecting democracy’. Basically, they are always looking to fall for this stuff.

    • ClimateStalin [they/them, he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      9·
      8 days ago

      It’s so weird to me, I feel like if you were already even slightly poised towards “The US does bad shit” it was so incredibly obvious that the Ukraine war is the US’s fault and Russia was defending itself.

      Why the fuck are my fellow westerners, including a lot of self-described leftists (I’m looking at you, Trashfuture discord) too stupid to recognize that incredibly obvious fact?