• Please_Do_Not@lemm.ee
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    2 days ago

    In the US, servers and restaurant staff tip like 100% of the time they go out because they know how important it is with our current pay laws, and they know that the waiter expecting that tip isn’t the one making the laws or who deserves to be punished for them. So that tip is almost always going to someone else who also tips.

    Btw, don’t bother arguing with me that tipping is wrong so we shouldn’t do it. I agree that it’s wrong, but abstaining punishes the wrong people (servers, not owners or policymakers). So instead of writing a comment, write a letter to you local govt to eliminate sub-minimum wages for tipped workers, and keep tipping poor waiters and drivers til they change something.

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      2 days ago

      All the things I’ve read say that a majority of tipped workers (as well as the general population) prefer the current tips system. Maybe it’s not true, but looking at the comments here it seems accurate.

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        1 day ago

        They don’t want to bite the hand that feeds them, literally. Its an expected response. Those that don’t depend on tipping or who can look at a bigger picture are able to be less biased in most cases.

        Let’s be clear, paying someone 2$ an hour is never okay, tipping or not.

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        2 days ago

        Former tipped employee here. This is probably correct, but I don’t care. The majority is often wrong. They can be educated. Change is scary, and the people who benefit from the status quo demonize changes that will give them less power.

        I would probably have made less money if paid a salary, but it would be worth it to not have to balance priorities between getting a good tip and following restaurant policies.

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          21 hours ago

          to not have to balance priorities between getting a good tip and following restaurant policies.

          Can you explain more? Like, why is it an either-or-situation?

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            16 hours ago

            People often want things that are against policy. Just as the first example that comes to mind, think about a bartender giving a regular patron a long pour or a free drink. That’s good for tips, but bad for the restaurant. That’s not always the case, but a good waiter can usually bend or break the rules to keep a guest happy.

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      2 days ago

      I work at the most expensive restaurant in my town, FOH workers are paid $2.13 (regardless of tips) and servers have to tip out 30% to assistants and bar. If everybody stopped tipping one day then some of them will literally not even have the money to buy gas to go home.

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        1 day ago

        Yes, and then the restaurant would close because noone can work there. They might have to consider paying a decent wage.

        Y’all act like there aren’t restaurants that already pay a standard wage. Stop supporting your oppressors, its a shitty look.

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        2 days ago

        An expensive restaurant pays $2/hr and we think people tipping/not tipping is the problem?!

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        2 days ago

        Usually if you make under the federal minimum wage they’ll bump you up to minimum wage for the shift. I know my restaurant does. But yeah thats still nothing

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          2 days ago

          Our job does not apparently, asked my sous chef about it when I learned and he doesn’t understand if it’s legal or what

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            2 days ago

            Its illegal, they legally need to compensate you the difference if your tipped wages is under the federal minimum wage.

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              1 day ago

              Cool, now the underpaid staff has to find counsel to go sue their employer. Guess it worked out in the end.