• ClathrateG [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      I assume they tunnel their traffic first to a third party country without complete NSA coverage then to the US, so logs would see 3rd country to US connections rather than DPRK to US ones

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        Either the DPRK has a really dedicated network of laptop spies that go otherwise unnoticed by the panopticon somehow and spend all their time as cross-continental drifters or there’s like 20 VPN tunnels of employees all working for tech companies that ends up in the greater sheboygan area as defined by what one person could reasonably do in a week and neither of those feel realistic honestly

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          The trick about the panopticon is it’s not actually good at seeing everything all the time. It’s the threat of it that matters to discipline the population. In the case of the NSA/PRISM/14-eyes they have so much data much of it isn’t useful in a real time sense at present. They can go back and trace things back and find connections and nail people to the wall with investigations but at present they don’t have automated systems that quickly identify and find every instance of something like this. Unfortunately they’re working on that with AI and I fear within 5-10 years they could be there but at present it’s mostly just data that gets siloed then looked over as needed within the context of specific investigations into specific known persons and their networks of contacts and relations.

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            but at present they don’t have automated systems that quickly identify and find every instance of something like this.

            My point is mostly they don’t have to do the impossible and single out one guy who routes his laptop via third country to the DRPK, my point is that you either find the guy going on cannonball runs all his life or alternatively the aforementioned sheboygan hotspot of remote worker connections to tech companies all coming from hostile countries

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      The NSA panopticon is extremely inefficient and bad at its official job. It’s really good at mass collecting data of private citizens to be abused for general political reasons and it’s useful for targeted hacking in state warfare/espionage, it’s very bad at actually finding or preventing ‘real’ crimes of basically any kind.