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      Zionists are people who support the ethnic state that is Israel. A large portion of Zionists are Christian Evangelicals from the US.

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        It’s worth pointing out that the reasons they support Israel as an ethnostate are largely two-fold

        1. They believe that a restored Jewish state in Palestine is a sign of Jesus’s return, meaning they’ll get raptured soon.

        2. They want Jewish people out of “their” country.

        Zionism has a long history of antisemitism despite the apparent contradiction.

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          Exactly, many Nazis also find the idea of sending jews to the desert to be a preferable way of “dealing” with them. Fascists supporting fascists I suppose.

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          I dont give two shites about “antisemitism”. The word has become meaningless. It just means “whatever the zionists want”.

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            Zionists really don’t like this but it is true. By calling everyone who doesn’t agree with you an “antisemite” to strike fear and/or silence them, it is bleaching the word and taking away its meaning and less people will recognize or respect the word for its real meaning. It’s not good.

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        The vast majority of Zionists are Christian Evangelicals from the US.

        That’s not true; Europe has pretty sizeable numbers too, and supposed liberal Zionists exist all over the West in large numbers. Screw them all, but let’s not pretend Zionists only have sway with one religious group.

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      Zionism is often defined as the belief that the state of Israel should exist. Zionists tend to have strong anti-Palestinian sentiments and support atrocities against them.

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        Zionism is a political movement whichs objects have changed over the course of its 150 years existence. Most early Zionists, even the vile ones who embraced ethnic cleansing as crucial to obtain “their” state had their goals fulfilled in 1948. Ever since then the movement kept radicalizing to keep justifying more ethnic cleansing, land stealing, genocide and assorted crimes that come with being an expansionist imperial ideology.

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          Most early Zionists, even the vile ones who embraced ethnic cleansing as crucial to obtain “their” state had their goals fulfilled in 1948.

          Yeah… no. Ben Gurion is on record saying “we should accept partition as an intermediary step towards Jewish conquest of all of Palestine” multiple times. Zionism has always been like this; Zionists have simply deluded themselves and everyone else into thinking early Zionism wasn’t exactly the same stuff as modern Zionism, just with better PR and more democracy for the master race. The reason Zionists didn’t conquer and ethnically cleanse all of Palestine is Arab intervention to stop exactly that from happening.