Rumours, speculation and hearsay? “Interesting” at least.

  • robinn_IV [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    1. “One-party rule”

    A mass-party with ~1 in 10 as a member. Multiple ruling parties doesn’t automatically equal democracy. Read up on the mass line.

    1. “Massive censorship”

    Elaborate.

    1. “The active genocide”

    https://xinjiangahr.carrd.co/

    1. “Crushing repression”

    Elaborate.

      • dialectical_analysis_of_gock [she/her]@hexbear.net
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        Tibet - https://redsails.org/friendly-feudalism/

        Xinjiang Papers -

        The quote from the New York Times Article discussing the papers [nytimes.com/interactive/2019/11/16/world/asia/china-xinjiang-documents.html]: “absolutely no mercy” was from a 2014 speech on the terror attacks, specifically was referring to the perpetrators of the terror attacks, and did not scapegoat Uyghurs to any extent (what a wonder a three letter quote could be taken out of context!) in addition, the phrase “organs of dictatorship” from that speech refers to the proletarian class dictatorship The “leaked documents” (provided by anonymous sources) were affirmed by Adrian Zenz (Christofascist racist) and James Mulvenon (former member of the U.S. state adjacent Council on Foreign Relations and member of the National Committee on United States - China Relations, which along with the Defense Group Inc.—of which he is vice-president–provides military policy planning and assessments to the United States Government). Mulvenon also has testified before the U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission, a U.S. Government project. His profile for this commission reads in part:“James Mulvenon is Director of Intelligence Integration at SOS International, where he has recruited and trained a team of more than forty-five Chinese, Russian, Korean, and Farsi linguist-analysts and ten cleared software developers, performing collection, analysis, and operations support for US Government and corporate customers”

        The principle document (the “bulletins” are rather benign) is a top-secret telegram which the ICIJ describes as:“…from the Communist Party commission in charge of Xinjiang’s security apparatus. The telegram, written in Chinese, is an operations manual for operation. It is marked ‘secret’ and was approved by Zhu Hailun, then deputy secretary of Xinjiang’s Communist Party and the region’s top security official.”Clearly what we have here is a document meant for only the highest levels of the bureaucracy, one which will divulge the actual thought process and rationale behind policy.

        The document begins with a set of guidelines for running the facilities. First is “[to] ensure that the training venue is absolutely safe].” The guidelines follow:“It is strictly forbidden for police to enter the student zone with guns, and they must never allow escapes, never allow trouble… never allow food safety incidents and major epidemics, and they must ensure the training center is safe and free of risk”“Through letter writing, phone calls, video chats, visits, meetings, etc., establish a mechanism for students and relatives to interact with each other, to that the ensure students will have a phone conversation with their relatives at least once a month, to make their family feel at ease and the students feel safe.”“…every effort should be made to fix employment work for completed graduates to ensure the smooth development of students with employment aspirations. For those who don’t have the ability to work and have difficulties in life, it is necessary to coordinate grassroots organizations to seriously carry out assistance and relief work, and effectively solve practical difficulties.”

        There are further notes on strict time management, preventing earthquakes and fires, and also measures to surveil all areas. These seem comparable to prisons, which is in line with the highest facilities being reserved for radicalized terrorists (bulletin No. 20 deals with those spreading violent propaganda / those who have joined terrorist organizations). When considering that the United States promoted terrorist radicalization in Xinjiang such things lose isolation. The document outlines a very strict process, but one not mentioning forced anti-religious practices such as consuming pork or alcohol [The Independent 29 May 2018], organ harvesting [Falun Gong cult allegations], forced labor [U.S. Dept. of Labor], or physical abuse/torture (we cannot make a case of propaganda, because these are again purportedly top-secret documents).

        Show me a picture of the Xinjaing genocide, there are so many of the genocide in Palestine perpetrated by a top intelligence agency/military equipment state so finding photo/video evidence of the Uyghyr should be easy right?

        Show me a picture of a civilian death in Tianamen Square, it has been refuted by many academics from many different countries.

        Do you support anti-covid lockdown protests in other countries?

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        1: The CCP does not allow alternative parties

        Correct, though it’s the CPC. No one is arguing against that (aside from that other parties do exist and are allowed to hold lower offices), they are contesting what it means. Imagining that the DNC was a state organ rather than a private institution, what problem would be posed by there only being a DNC with no RNC or other significant competitor? What does the RNC actually accomplish in this situation?

        Do you know what a primary election is?

        This shit is why GenZedong had bots, people come in with nothing new to say but pithy one-liners as though their interlocutor even knowing what they are talking about isn’t a refutation of it being an original statement.