You dont have a leftist party like what I’m talking about. One that wants to abolish hierarchies between people. One that guarantees food and shelter for everyone, no matter where they are from.

The left parties here generally do want everybody to have the basic necessities, they are generally pretty shortsighted in where to get the money from to fund that.

Your idea of many classes is exactly what actual leftists are trying to get out of your head because it is detrimental to you.

Why? It is fact that you have multiple classes. I see it on a daily basis (I work in finances) and people have different goals in life based on where they sit. There are other ways of looking at it, like working class and not-working class or whatever, but that’s nothing more than a different opinion.

People who receive say unemployment benefits arent another class. They simply dont have a job. Dividing people into classes makes them weak and conquerable.

There is way more social security than just unemployment benefits. There is a massive amount of people who (need) to live of social security. Who cannot work because they are suck, or well they are in between jobs or whatever. We need to financially support those people, but it shouldn’t be the case that if you start to work, you get less money than when not working. That is currently an issue since social security stops at certain incomes and if often happens that people who barely get out of the social security system get less money. But in the tax system those people are different than the working class who receive none and generally they have a different look at social security because they marginally (taxes they pay plus the loss of social security) pay a lot of taxes (up to 80% or something like that even when earning like 30k a year).

If you have to sell your time for money, you are working class, like all others. Currently, this working class is under attack by the capital. Incomes for the mahority of people is not going up and by dividing us into many classes we can be told this doesnt concern us.

I believe that you are forgetting that a lot of the working class is also the part that is causing stress on the capital or whatever you want to call it. There is an economic flaw in the current system of always wanting more salaries wanting more profit, revenue etc. Most people have savings which banks invest into companies to then generate a profit or people do it together.

This leads to folks driving a ferrari through a part of the city where people starve on the streets. That is a sign of fully deleted empathy to your fellow humans.

Just because somebody owns or drives a Ferrari doesn’t mean they don’t care for others? We had a client who had to win in advice here how to give money anonymously to a food bank. The dude is pretty dang rich (a couple 100k euro to spend a year), but generally does things like that on a regular basis.

Actual leftists have the sole goal of destroying homelessness and hunger. Thats what we do.

No, that’s YOUR opinion on what leftists sole goal is. I have talked to others who’s main goal it is to create a better environment for war victims, which in turn causes more people to be here. Most people shouldn’t really be homeless in The Netherlands unless their either choose to be homeless (some people do, but they might be sick, idk) or the more realistic case of them falling in between the social security benefits due to the current structure. Which is also the reason why sometimes working more or getting a pay raise will result in less money to spend in a given moment. UBI will fix that, but we need to get that and fund it. Or people who went into shit with the company or just generally don’t make a lot of money from their company. Those get barely any support from the government.

In theory, the minimum income somebody should have if they would be homeless is a bit more than 2k a month.

In a lot of countries (like the US f.e.) there are no middle parties so then I can understand that people either not vote or vote for what they feel like is the lesser of two evil. I have the ability to vote on the person I feel like will do the best job in the parties that will do the best job. And even those I am more middle aligned I am also for getting actually rid of hunger/homelessness etc. But I also want people to be able to run a company (not a massive corporation) and be able to make it so they can live of that company. I feel like a lot of parties (and people) just have a general hate against companies unless you specifically mention that it is the local bakery or something.

I also don’t believe in you are either left or either right or whatever. People can have opinions and make statements, and those statements can make a person more left leaning or more right leaning. The most important part is that we make sure everybody has basic needs, but also to impact peoples lives in a way that benefits them fairly. And there are different ways of doing it and going into it in an extreme way generally doesn’t help.