‘Our long-term objective is to make printing a subscription’ says HP CEO gunning for 2024’s Worst Person of the Year award | Not satisfied with merely bricking printers, HP now wants to own them al…::It was only the other day we reported how HP has been slapped with a lawsuit in response to measures that disable its printers when fitted with a third-party ink cartridge. Now the company’s CEO,

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      I have a Brother laserjet I got on Amazon for $70 10 years ago. I print on it occasionally, and it always works. That thing has never needed new toner. It never jams. It just keeps going. Highly recommend finding a basic laserjet model from that brand.

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      I’ll go one step further and never buy another HP product of any kind!

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    This really doesn’t seem like a very good long-term investment. Over time people are printing less, not more.

    If you make it difficult to print they’ll make the active effort to move away from your product, which is especially bad given the people are moving away from printing in general anyway.

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    Just happened today:

    Employee asks for toner for an aging HP Laserjet printer since it’s out. I look it up and it’s $198 for black (it’s not a color laser). I immediately looked up a Brother laser with an ADF scanner/copier and it was $199. High Yield Toner is $15 without a chip from a reputable 3rd party. Office is getting a new Brother printer delivered tomorrow and it’ll work 100x better.

    HP, this is how you kill your printer division. Short sighted idiots.

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        Too many disagreements about whether it worked or not in the reviews to spend a minimum of $99 on it.

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          Ah, that makes sense. I’ve only used the really old ones but I imagine that they’ve made it harder to do this on more recent models.

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            HP has absolutely lost their minds and misread consumers, even business consumers. They’ve absolutely made things near impossible to use 3rd party supplies. I mean, they want to go full subscription model so you’re paying monthly to use a piece of sub-par hardware you bought. They still think they don’t have competition and haven’t realized Brother and others like Lexmark have surpassed them in the enterprise world.

            Oh and we got the printer delivered and it was up and printing in about 5 min. That included me inputting the WiFi password using the up and down arrows and ok button. Brother’s still got it.

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      Legit question like I bought an Epson tank printer. I don’t use cartridges. I don’t use anything with HP on it right? So if they decide that they want to screw you over but they’re not a monopoly, wouldn’t we just go elsewhere? How is this a win for them? I just feel like they’re digging a hole for themselves

      No?

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        Epson is only marginally better with the Ecotank, the components are dated to fail within 2 years after the warranty. That being said, they’re second best to Brother because they actually price ink fairly.

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    Greedy rent-seeking garbage humans would make breathing a subscription if they could. And the sad and scary part is that for some reason there are people ready and willing to pay for the Premium Oxygen Subscription Plus with unlimited breaths per day and the Gold Blinking Packaage added for free for the first month ($99.95 after that)…

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    How much I would love if EU pulled a USB-C on printer ink/toner.

    “All printers must be compatible with one of these X possible formats of ink/toner. Lockdown is forbidden too”

    Sure the printers would be more expensive but I am sure we would see an incredible improvement in quality and decrease in ink/toner cost

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      Sure the printers would be more expensive but I am sure we would see an incredible improvement in quality and decrease in ink/toner cost

      Probably because everyone but Brother would step out of the market.

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      “This is the ink we use. Everyone use the same ink. Cheaper, easier, better for everyone.”

      “But sir, that sounds a lot like something Communists would do!”

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      How much I would love for America to stop letting it’s corporations get away with these things so we won’t have to wait for the EU

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    1. Buy Brother, better printers without all this subscription garbage.

    2. How long before an ‘open source’ printer hots the market and terrifies this idiot CEO?

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      If he hasn’t been scared by Xerox, Brother, and Epson, he won’t be scared by a FLOSS printer. At this point, the only people who buy HP printers are those who don’t even google it and remember hearing the laserjets were good circa 1995.

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    It is unfortunate that they keep trying to make a subscription out of something that does not have an ongoing infrastructure need at the company’s side.

    On the other hand, I wonder how this could affect open source firmware to avoid e-waste. I read a thread about open source firmware for robot vacuums and there will surely be open source (if there is not already) for printers.

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      I’ve been holding off on buying a new robot vacuum, hoping that the open source ecosystem around it continues to grow. I really want one that can run valetudo which can allow for network controls that are entirely local with no cloud requirement. The downside being that sometimes getting root on the device to install custom firmware requires intruding pretty deep into the hardware or isn’t possible at all.

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    Why isn’t there any competition in the printer space except for Brother? Are printers really that hard to make?

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    That CEO doesn’t even make top 1000 for worst person, that’s just naïve to think he ranks up there with Warlords, Dictators, Winnie the Pooh, and the Sackler Family.

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    Well it’s the long term objective of everyone else to put HP out of business.

    If possible we should take the signs off their buildings and turn them into works of modern art. We’ll let IT departments the world over do the project.

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      I propose setting fire to barricades of trash and car tires at strategic positions around every major city. I have some other ideas too, PM me.

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    Why would anyone buy such a printer? You could just go to a print shop at that point. Though honestly that’s already what I do so maybe it’s for the hikikomori or something. I don’t know why the home printer still exists in this day and age.

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      If I’m expected to pay a subscription that means every single aspect of the experience has to be outsourced to HP. And I’m including set up, cleaning and maintenance, consumables, and sending a man out to clear my paper jams for me, too. That’s how it works at the print shop – I put in money, they hand me prints completed to my specifications. Whatever happens in between those two events is not my problem.

      But of course that won’t be the case, so they can fuck off.

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      I don’t know why the home printer still exists in this day and age.

      Legal shit.

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        I was just considering an HP printer as next. Sure it will be another brand who respect customer choice.