• d00phy@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    This assumes the minority groups can all agree on things in order to “come together.”

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        Everyone is being deliberately divided. It’s not specific to minority groups. I guess my issue is that the post is vague and assumes minority groups act as voting blocs which is pretty simplistic. OP is basically saying what everyone already knows: that there are more people making up “minorities” than there are making up the “majority.” I would argue that your local community has a higher impact on your vote than your ethnicity or race. For sure, those play a part, but they don’t singularly define your vote. Also, various minority groups skew quite differently. Latinos typically skew more conservative than, say Jews or blacks.

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      This assumes the minority groups can all agree on things in order to “come together.”

      Do you know what a moot point is?

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        I do, and my point wasn’t. Not all minority groups agree on everything just because they’re minorities. The world is a tad more complicated than that. Besides, what are they “coming together” to do? Overthrow the “majority?” Does that automatically assume that the majority is wrong and minorities are right just because they’re minorities? Again, the world’s just not that simple.

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          This was about rights, not agreeing on every single subject. For minority groups without, or lacking in, basic human rights in the same population it is more productive to try and attain them as a singular group.

          Everything you have said is a moot point in regards to what I am saying.

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        I suspect you’ve never hung out with enough different minority groups to understand the scope of difficulty. I mean FFS the Latinos vote against immigration, The poor vote against social services. Even when you run into a minority group that is doing things in their best interest, they’re not inclined to stick their neck out for people outside there subgroup. Nobody else is taking care of them so they take care of themselves and they give no F’s about the other minorities

        The concept that all the minorities together aren’t a minority anymore is true at some level, I think you’ve got a better chance of having white leftists stand up for them then them standing up for each other.

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          I suspect you’ve never hung out with enough different minority groups to understand the scope of difficulty. I mean FFS the Latinos vote against immigration, The poor vote against social services. Even when you run into a minority group that is doing things in their best interest, they’re not inclined to stick their neck out for people outside there subgroup. Nobody else is taking care of them so they take care of themselves and they give no F’s about the other minorities

          You should reflect on why your rhetoric and beliefs are a major part of the problem.

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            22 hours ago

            Your inexperience and own beliefs do not make the experiences of those talking to you invalid; furthermore, calling other people’s experiences rhetoric and belief is frankly rude.

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              22 hours ago

              Your inexperience and own beliefs do not make the experiences of those talking to you invalid; furthermore, calling other people’s experiences rhetoric and belief is frankly rude.

              Saying “the latinos vote against immigration”, “the poor vote against social services”, and assuming all groups are out for themselves is bigotry.

              Your constant personal attacks and bad faith arguing is what is rude, and assuming I have never “hung out with enough minorities to think right” is another huge helping of bigotry from you.

              That said, I’m out.