Texas leads the charge

  • ChokingHazard63@sh.itjust.works
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    3 months ago

    Nobody’s trying to say they aren’t illegal immigrants. But using derogatory terms is unnecessary and won’t bring a lot of people to your side.

    • jimbolauski@lemm.ee
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      3 months ago

      Illegals is just shortened illegal immigrant, just like temporary nonimigrant workers are called migrants. The negative connotation is yours.

      • FfaerieOxide@kbin.social
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        3 months ago

        Illegals is just shortened illegal immigrant, just like temporary nonimigrant workers are called migrants.

        They are migrants because they migrate. They aren’t “illegals” because irrespective of the status of their presence according to those that claim dominion of the land they are on they are not themselves illegal.

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          3 months ago

          They are illegal immigrants or illegal for short per the definition you were given but appear unable to comprehend.

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            3 months ago

            But they aren’t illegal_s_ as that renders the phrase a reference to the people themselves and not their actions.

            To refer to people as illegal is dehumanizing.

            • jimbolauski@lemm.ee
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              3 months ago

              Just because you look down on a group of people doesn’t make the term to describe them dehumanizing.

              Just because you can’t differenciate between a term for immigration status and the people with that status doesn’t change what the term means.

              • Neuromancer@lemm.eeM
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                3 months ago

                I don’t look down on the group. I look down on their actions. I don’t like criminal behavior.

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                3 months ago

                Just because you look down on a group of people doesn’t make the term to describe them dehumanizing.

                Doesn’t make it not dehumanizing—since it is—and it certainly doesn’t help your arguments it isn’t.

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                  3 months ago

                  I can’t change how you feel about a group nor can I change the definition of a word. It’s a shame you only see a person’s immigration status there’s more to an illegal than how they entered the country.

                  • FfaerieOxide@kbin.social
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                    3 months ago

                    there’s more to an illegal than how they entered the country.

                    You’re going to have to explain what the word means to me then, because the phrase by itself doesn’t even seem to refer to immigration status at all and I don’t know what you mean by it.

            • Throwaway@lemm.eeM
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              3 months ago

              Thats the term for their group, isnt it? Isnt it tiring to type out illegal immigrant every time?

            • Throwaway@lemm.eeM
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              3 months ago

              Thats really getting into pedantics, and its just name calling. I swear, yall cared more about the term illegals than the lawsuit

              • FfaerieOxide@kbin.social
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                3 months ago

                Thats really getting into pedantics, and its just name calling.

                I question if that view of yours extends to all slurs.

                  • FfaerieOxide@kbin.social
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                    3 months ago

                    It doesnt. I remove any uses of the n-word and r-word on sight.

                    Would you mind explaining your logic for differentiating those names people call people from these ones?

                    What issues do you take with the alluded to slurs you don’t find applicable to this one?