Glad to see another voice of sanity regarding Windows.
If you haven’t learned by now, on Lemmy the only valid option for dealing with Windows configuration and basic Windows admin tasks is to yeet Windows and go to Linux.
I work in this space profressionally. Systems administrarion, architecture, design, and integration. Please take your single sentence “hot takes” elsewhere.
Windows is far from “a shitty product” or “broken”. It is developed by horrid anti-consumer motherfuckers out to extract as much profit as possible from their least profitable user base: home users. Evil as hell, sure, but so is nearly every large corporation that makes shit that fills your personal hovel you call home. If that makes them untouchable for you, that is a great choice. But that does not factually impact the usability or usefulness of the product.
Linux is awesome and necessary. Open source is the only way this whole mess keeps working far into the future, and I am no stranger to compiling shit from source and submitting pull requests.
My problems with the Linux community, specifically on Lemmy, are these: Linux is not “just easier” and depressingly still not ready for the average consumer unwilling to tinker. The overwhelming majority of complaints about Windows so frequently posted here are solved problems that people pretend are entirely unfixable, or refuse to learn how to fix. For many people venting about their computer, it would be easier to direct them how to fix what they have rather than try to use it as an opportunity to push your religion OS of choice.
If you can manage Linux, I promise that “fixing” a Windows install is well within your reach. Plenty of problems with it, but “broken”? “Unusable”? Take a look outside at the majority of the world, or even the fucking Steam user statistics and get back to me on that. More than good enough for the overwhelming majority.
If you haven’t learned by now, on Lemmy the only valid option for dealing with Windows configuration and basic Windows admin tasks is to yeet Windows and go to Linux.
Not true. The only valid option to deal with Windows at all is to yeet it and go to Linux.
That isn’t the reason to yeet Windows. If you were talking years ago about 7 or XP, things were different. 10 is not that great comparably, and 11 is a mess. But keep your Windows, if it’s what works for you. Until it doesn’t.
Dual boot for the best of both worlds (although I’m finding myself more and more on the Linux side because it’s better for me.)
It’s the constant war on end users that chased me away from windows.
You can’t say no to their relentless advertising. It’s “maybe later”. The pushing to require a Microsoft account. Ads in the start menu. Windows Recall.
The list goes on. You get as much agency as Microsoft allows, or you violate your eula and modify the os to remove things you don’t want.
We didn’t know it at the time, but windows 7 was peak windows.
100% valid choice. I’d argue that it’s even the correct one.
That said, those specific examples are all “solved”. My issue is that the overwhelming amount of Linux pushers here tend to act as though those issues are literally unsolvable.
The ads are nearly all controlled from a single yes/no switch a single level deep into the settings menu. And that switch has not been reset by updates in at least four years. Since I’ve joined lemmy, every single “Microsoft is pushing more ads into Windows” article I’ve seen has been talking about ads controlled by this same singular switch.
Things like the pushing of the Microsoft account and Recall are mostly avoided by using their Professional SKU/License/OS version and using GPO to disable those features. Or to take specific steps during install. You have to use the tools they have for corporate customers that have specific legal guidelines that prevent them from being able to use whatever MS’s new revenue extraction trick is.
Bullshit? Yes. Should anyone have to do this shit to have a decent OS? No.
But if you’re savvy enough to navigate Linux, you’re more than capable of navigating this shit on Windows. It’s not impossible.
I just riced my work computer, let me fucken tell ya about tricking out a windows machine: its fucking embarrassing. Not that its fundamentally different than customizing Linux, for both you download apps (or packages). But its a clumsy ass mess on windows that has to overlay the existing shit, on Linux the only shit that exists is what I want. I dont have to deal with an onery built in taskbar, or trick a built in window manager to be tiling. The one I pick does what I want.
Glad to see another voice of sanity regarding Windows.
If you haven’t learned by now, on Lemmy the only valid option for dealing with Windows configuration and basic Windows admin tasks is to yeet Windows and go to Linux.
Sounds like a bad excuse for having a shitty product.
I work in this space profressionally. Systems administrarion, architecture, design, and integration. Please take your single sentence “hot takes” elsewhere.
Windows is far from “a shitty product” or “broken”. It is developed by horrid anti-consumer motherfuckers out to extract as much profit as possible from their least profitable user base: home users. Evil as hell, sure, but so is nearly every large corporation that makes shit that fills your personal hovel you call home. If that makes them untouchable for you, that is a great choice. But that does not factually impact the usability or usefulness of the product.
Linux is awesome and necessary. Open source is the only way this whole mess keeps working far into the future, and I am no stranger to compiling shit from source and submitting pull requests.
My problems with the Linux community, specifically on Lemmy, are these: Linux is not “just easier” and depressingly still not ready for the average consumer unwilling to tinker. The overwhelming majority of complaints about Windows so frequently posted here are solved problems that people pretend are entirely unfixable, or refuse to learn how to fix. For many people venting about their computer, it would be easier to direct them how to fix what they have rather than try to use it as an opportunity to push your
religionOS of choice.If you can manage Linux, I promise that “fixing” a Windows install is well within your reach. Plenty of problems with it, but “broken”? “Unusable”? Take a look outside at the majority of the world, or even the fucking Steam user statistics and get back to me on that. More than good enough for the overwhelming majority.
Oh jeez… you’re right. Sorry for expressing a view you disagree with. I feel firmly told off now.
Not true. The only valid option to deal with Windows at all is to yeet it and go to Linux.
That isn’t the reason to yeet Windows. If you were talking years ago about 7 or XP, things were different. 10 is not that great comparably, and 11 is a mess. But keep your Windows, if it’s what works for you. Until it doesn’t.
Dual boot for the best of both worlds (although I’m finding myself more and more on the Linux side because it’s better for me.)
Even Windows 11 still has all the options Windows 7 had, and plenty more. Stop swallowing the Linux propaganda.
It’s the constant war on end users that chased me away from windows.
You can’t say no to their relentless advertising. It’s “maybe later”. The pushing to require a Microsoft account. Ads in the start menu. Windows Recall.
The list goes on. You get as much agency as Microsoft allows, or you violate your eula and modify the os to remove things you don’t want.
We didn’t know it at the time, but windows 7 was peak windows.
100% valid choice. I’d argue that it’s even the correct one.
That said, those specific examples are all “solved”. My issue is that the overwhelming amount of Linux pushers here tend to act as though those issues are literally unsolvable.
The ads are nearly all controlled from a single yes/no switch a single level deep into the settings menu. And that switch has not been reset by updates in at least four years. Since I’ve joined lemmy, every single “Microsoft is pushing more ads into Windows” article I’ve seen has been talking about ads controlled by this same singular switch.
Things like the pushing of the Microsoft account and Recall are mostly avoided by using their Professional SKU/License/OS version and using GPO to disable those features. Or to take specific steps during install. You have to use the tools they have for corporate customers that have specific legal guidelines that prevent them from being able to use whatever MS’s new revenue extraction trick is.
Bullshit? Yes. Should anyone have to do this shit to have a decent OS? No.
But if you’re savvy enough to navigate Linux, you’re more than capable of navigating this shit on Windows. It’s not impossible.
Related joke:
Does Microsoft understand consent?
Yes / Ask me again later
It’s not propaganda if anyone can try things out for themselves, and even use them both if they want. Stop trying to keep your MS stock high.
I just riced my work computer, let me fucken tell ya about tricking out a windows machine: its fucking embarrassing. Not that its fundamentally different than customizing Linux, for both you download apps (or packages). But its a clumsy ass mess on windows that has to overlay the existing shit, on Linux the only shit that exists is what I want. I dont have to deal with an onery built in taskbar, or trick a built in window manager to be tiling. The one I pick does what I want.