• MisterFrog@lemmy.world
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    20 hours ago

    So, are you one of the people who thinks we call selfish people n*rcissists because it’s a mental disorder

    What? No? Did you read my comment?

    16 year old from the Greek myth who didn’t want to date anyone was an arrogant git and deserved to die for selfishly keeping his body from the world?

    Are you aware that meanings of words, and how they’re used, change?

    I’m gonna just have to assume this is ragebait

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      18 hours ago

      I’m asexual, and I’m not comfortable with you using a word that has been used to attack other asexuals and aromatics for thousands of years. Not to mention the way you’re implicitly supporting pedophilia. If you didn’t know, then it would be forgivable, but you know now, and you still choose to use the aphobic, pedophilic word. So I think something is flawed in your ability to tell right from wrong, and in your ability to exercise kindness.

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        18 hours ago

        This has got to be ragebait. If not, I’d strongly encourage you to update your personal vocabulary to be in line with modern use of narcissist, so you don’t need to be offended.

        You’re getting offended about a word being used because of its origin, a word who’s meaning has changed since it’s coining.

        Should people stop using “queer” now too? Even though the connotations have changed and are no longer negative (well, this is somewhat in the process of changing, there are still fuckwits who use it negatively).

        I know people say this on the internet a lot, but there’s some grass outside in some desperate need of touching.

        People are not using narcissist in the way you’re getting offended over. I can confidently say that the vast, vast majority of people don’t even know it has anything to do with sexuality. Most people have no idea where the word comes from.

        Its origin is now a historical curiosity, as is all etymology.

        It’s like you’re going out of your way to be upset over something no one is intending.

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            15 hours ago

            Because you’re the first person I’ve ever encountered, and I’m willing to bet the last, who’s offended by this word.

            If things change, as language does, and your position gains any traction, and the word really does start to mean what you alone think it currently means, then I will happily stop. Currently the implications you’re asserting exist with its use, simply don’t for the vast majority of its users.

            This isn’t anything like pronouns, or names, which are personal, I’m happy to call people anything that makes them happy.

            This is a meaning of a word, and language is constantly evolving. It’s used to communicate, and I’m not going to stop using a word because one rando on the internet has decided it means something no one else thinks it means.

            For real, stop being offended by something simply because of historical meanings.

            Next minute you’re going to be mad about me using the word “enthusiast” because it had negative connotations in the 1600s, or whatever other random example you can think of.

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                10 hours ago

                It is negative, but it’s not insulting based on someone’s sexuality! (Edit: I’m assuming you’re referring to narcissist, not enthusiast)

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                  6 hours ago

                  WHY is it insulting to call someone a Greek asexual boy?

                  Because people spent thousands of years hating that teenage boy for not putting out.

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                    5 hours ago

                    I am aware of the historical origin. I did not previously in all honesty, so at least thanks for making me aware, I do rather enjoy etymology. However, this word no longer has these connotations which you’re taking offence over.

                    I’m sorry that the origin of this word is painful for you, but no one is intending harm toward you or intending to degrade your sexuality by using this word.

                    People use it to describe someone who’s being negligently self-centred and unempathetic. People simply don’t associate it with sexuality, at all.

                    I understand because of your personal circumstances, and no doubt real discrimination you’ve faced, this word is a sore point for you.

                    However, if it’s any consolation, for this one word in particular, you do not have to be sore, the meaning of the word has changed since it’s origin.

                    You can either accept that or not.