• Aceticon@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    I saw it live, on TV (not even a US channel), on a news segment coverage of a White House press conference.

    The effort necessary to dig the video if at all possible or actual written news of it in a language you understand (as that was not in an English-speaking channel) isn’t justfied to answer a random poster on the Internet using a style of demand for “proof” which is very common amongst trolls, astroturfers and sockpuppets, especially because if you are one of such bad faith actors, you would just come up with some other “argument” willfully denying the obvious such as “yeah, but Joe Biden himself didn’t do it”.

    Given your totally illogical argument (bad faith or just irrational?!) that me not wanting to dig it out to see it again is the same as me not being interested in it, I’m sure I’ll manage to endure the stress from the risk that you’re actually not a bad faith actor and still do not believe me…

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    here Karine implies that Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib made antisemitic remarks by using the phrase “from the river to the sea”, then backtracks but not quite.

    and here , a month later Karine is confronted with the son of Netanyahu having himself used “from the river to the sea” and is asked if he is thus antisemite, which apparently he is not and then she suddenly discovers that they’re “out of time”.

    So I was off: the White House doesn’t directly call people antisemitic, they just imply they are if they use sentences like “from the river to the see”, but if the person is the son of Netanyahu, then the phrase is not antisemitic after all. In other words, it’s the person not the sentence.

    There’s also A LOT of press briefings where she says pro-palestinian protests were antisemitic which as SkyezOpen in this thread has pointed out is based on things like claiming that using “from the river to the sea” (as in: “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free”) is antisemitic. Again, this time indirectly, it’s the good old claim that “from the river to the sea” is antisemitic that apparently only applies to some people, not others.

    Want to dig for yourself, here’s the Google search:

    Karine Jean-Pierre “antisemitic” +site:www.whitehouse.gov

    • stanleytweedle@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      I saw a live TV show not even a US channel that said you made up the story about what you saw on a live TV show not even a US channel ;)

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      6 months ago

      using a style of demand for “proof” which is very common amongst trolls, astroturfers and sockpuppets

      Nah. It’s trolls, astroturfers, and sock puppets who come in, make extraordinary claims, and say it’s too hard to find so you should go find it yourself.

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      “How dare you not just believe what some random person on the internet is claiming. You must be a troll” is easily one of the most dumb arguments a person can make.

      But to then to go on and make up my response to your alleged evidence, label that response unreasonable, and because “I” made argument, I must be unreasonable because of it. . .well, just that’s just peak hilarity.

      You really proved that I’m the unreasonable one arguing in bad faith. lol