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  • blady_blah@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Ah, this is “a lesson about how to exclude white people (still the majority of the country) from any social justice movement.” Characterize and belittle any of them who try to engage and support a cause.

    If they can’t relate and want to have a conversation about it but challenge some of the ideas then they’re the baddies. If they don’t just repeat the movement’s slogans without thought then clearly they should be excluded. This honestly feels like a right wing subversion tactic.

    Yes, I know there are people like the post. People who love to argue and do it for the fun of arguing. Those people do cause trouble if you’re trying to get a consensus or get something done… But just like “welfare , queens” or criminal illegal immigrants, they feel like the minority where this is intending to paint a large group of people with the same brush.

    It’s usually not good to make fun of people who are trying to help, or you teach people to shut down and not engage with your cause. If the statement is you have to have experienced or you can’t relate, then why bother having a movement because you’re not trying to convince anybody who isn’t already on your side.

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      11 months ago

      It’s not necessary a “white” person, for example I once had a discussion with a black American who took this position depicted here, a big Obama fan and free market defender

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      11 months ago

      Tell me you don’t understand what white supremacism is without telling me you don’t understand what white supremacism is.

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        11 months ago

        It’s interesting how vilifying an entire group of people based on the skin color is not considered racist if that skin color is white.

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          11 months ago

          Historically “racist” is the bunk pseudoscience that claimed white people are more intelligent than other racial groups. When you refer to someone in the modern age as racist you are comparing them to those idiots. It wouldn’t make a lot of sense to compare somebody to that group for disliking white people.

          To answer the deeper question you’re hinting at, although the post is racially predigest, making fun of white people for being white is generally considered punching up which is not frowned on in the same way as punching down.

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            11 months ago

            Considered punching up? Is that not racist itself? If a non-white considers making fun of white people to be “punching up”, then do they consider themselves as lesser than white people? We are all human, and discriminating based on race is racist regardless of the race.

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            9 months ago

            “punching” people in any direction simply for the color of their skin makes you a racist piece of shit.
            it really is that straightforward…

            it’s also an extremely online thing to do, and something you probably don’t go around doing in person… because you know what it really is…