If genocide is an inevitability, that means that the US is a fascist state which must be overthrown by any means necessary, and any farcical “elections” between two people who support genocide are a joke that should not be legitimized through participation!
The fact that you’re defending genocide as an inevitability is, in fact, a perfect demonstration of the harm caused by this very participation! The reason that you’ve taken such an abhorrent position is because you’ve centered the US political system as an immovable object. But the real immovable object should be… STOPPING GENOCIDE!
If your political project cannot draw a hard line against endorsing genocide, then it is worthless!
Ok that’s cool and all, so if voting doesn’t matter can you please vote for the option that results in fewer dead children? It’s like 1 day, and then you can go back to working on your glorious revolution the rest of the time.
The explanation for why I won’t has already been presented! Let’s think back to something that was said earlier…
If genocide is an inevitability, that means that the US is a fascist state which must be overthrown by any means necessary, and any farcical “elections” between two people who support genocide are a joke that should not be legitimized through participation!
The fact that you’re defending genocide as an inevitability is, in fact, a perfect demonstration of the harm caused by this very participation! The reason that you’ve taken such an abhorrent position is because you’ve centered the US political system as an immovable object. But the real immovable object should be… STOPPING GENOCIDE!
If your political project cannot draw a hard line against endorsing genocide, then it is worthless!
Cool cool cool so do you mind doing me a solid and - just humoring me here - casting a ballot for “fewer dead innocents and continuation of Democracy” in this farcical system? I mean sure it’s all a joke and pointless, and yeah let’s get on with the business of destroying the system and whatnot. But like for just a few hours, since it doesn’t matter anyway, can’t hurt to throw a ballot in, right?
Surely the other 365 days and 20 hours of breaking down the system more than offsets this tiny, minor, performative participation in it?
(What can I do? No matter what I try, they’re just ignoring and refusing to engage with anything I say! It’s like I’m not even in this conversation!)
Uhh, let’s try this again. Centering the US political system as an immovable object that you must participate in means defending morally abhorrent positions, while also legitimizing it. So no, I will not be voting for anyone who supports genocide, because it’s wrong to do so.
Then it’s complacency. Your protest is not saying you don’t want genocide. Your protest is saying you’re fine with whatever level of genocide we get. Driving transgender Americans to suicide, if not outright hunting them for sport, would just be an added bonus.
As a trans person, don’t hide behind me to defend your support of genocide!
Under no conceivable circumstance does anyone have a moral responsibility to support genocide. Even if a killer had me at gunpoint, I would sooner die than become an accomplice to mass murder!
I reject your framing of the issue! There comes a point where “lesser evilism” no longer applies. If the election were between Mussolini and Hitler, would you tell me that I have a moral responsibility to vote Mussolini? Would you tell me that refusing to legitimize such an election is “complacency?” This is the logical conclusion of your reasoning!
You don’t get the choice of no genocide. You get the choice between some genocide far away, or lots of genocide far away and some more at home.
I suppose that not voting is a choice, but that choice isn’t “I don’t want genocide”, that choice is “I don’t care how much genocide we have”.
If genocide is an inevitability, that means that the US is a fascist state which must be overthrown by any means necessary, and any farcical “elections” between two people who support genocide are a joke that should not be legitimized through participation!
If your political project cannot draw a hard line against endorsing genocide, then it is worthless!
Ok that’s cool and all, so if voting doesn’t matter can you please vote for the option that results in fewer dead children? It’s like 1 day, and then you can go back to working on your glorious revolution the rest of the time.
The explanation for why I won’t has already been presented! Let’s think back to something that was said earlier…
Cool cool cool so do you mind doing me a solid and - just humoring me here - casting a ballot for “fewer dead innocents and continuation of Democracy” in this farcical system? I mean sure it’s all a joke and pointless, and yeah let’s get on with the business of destroying the system and whatnot. But like for just a few hours, since it doesn’t matter anyway, can’t hurt to throw a ballot in, right?
Surely the other 365 days and 20 hours of breaking down the system more than offsets this tiny, minor, performative participation in it?
(What can I do? No matter what I try, they’re just ignoring and refusing to engage with anything I say! It’s like I’m not even in this conversation!)
Uhh, let’s try this again. Centering the US political system as an immovable object that you must participate in means defending morally abhorrent positions, while also legitimizing it. So no, I will not be voting for anyone who supports genocide, because it’s wrong to do so.
I think this is my favorite thread on Lemmy so far lmao.
Then it’s complacency. Your protest is not saying you don’t want genocide. Your protest is saying you’re fine with whatever level of genocide we get. Driving transgender Americans to suicide, if not outright hunting them for sport, would just be an added bonus.
As a trans person, don’t hide behind me to defend your support of genocide!
Under no conceivable circumstance does anyone have a moral responsibility to support genocide. Even if a killer had me at gunpoint, I would sooner die than become an accomplice to mass murder!
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