• iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works
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    2 days ago

    Does trans fall into the term gay now? Honest question. I understood the former to be about gender and the latter to be about sexual orientation.

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      For non-experts it generally falls into the “gay stuff”.

      (if you can explain the difference between sex and gender you’re an expert)

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      Not technically, but a lot of queer people use it as an umbrella term. As the saying goes: we are all f_ggots in the eyes of the state.

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      The aquarium staff hoist the trans flag, and explain that “some fish change gender”. The people complaining bring up “gay”, but don’t seem very well informed about human or aquatic cultures.

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        Do they change gender or sex though? I found that confusing. I know some species can change sex.

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          Fish changing sex is the most common, with pronounced physical sex changes. But they also usually simultaneously change gender, starting to behave in the manner associated with their new sex.

          And there is some interesting examples of changes that seem to be more gender based. This study discusses behavior changes in wrasses where “male-typical behaviors such as courtship and aggression” start being seen in certain female fish, leading to changes in social status, before any noticeable changes to gonadal organs (the glands that produce many of the sex hermones).

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      Not trying to answer the question, but the only party that suggests that in the original post is “the haters”.

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        Well the reason I asked is because the “haters” suggest it, but then the entertains it.

        And judging from the other answers I’ve received here, it does not seem to be a settled matter.

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      “Gay” as a blanket term inclusive of all alternative lifestyles and peoples. Like how saying “you guys” is inclusive of all genders.

      …or using the term “Man” to refer to all of humankind.