Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid!

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post, there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

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      The feature I am looking forward to the most in comminication apps is having a machine learning model listen to those “quick calls”, generate summary and action items and post them right back in the thread. You get the benefits of both worlds that way.

      Oh, you do, do you?

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      I love the HN response that’s basically “soooo, usenet with trn, then?” Though a client that handles email reply bottom posting with “>” prefixed fragments more accurately describes this use case.

      Either way there is nothing new under the sun.

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      Their entire manifesto could have been replaced with:

      “Oh hey check out our threads in threads demo so you can comment on comments!”

      Like it’s not that deep. It doesn’t need a manifesto.

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          Hi, Im threadGPT, I am an advanced AI which will make concise bullet points out of longer email or comments, here is a bulletpointed list of the above comment.

          • This manifesto could have been an e-mail!
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    Ohio State commencement speaker was bitcoin maxi Chris Pan, who tossed a suggestion to buy bitcoin into the middle of his speech, got audibly booed.

    Molly has some fun details on Musk’s hell site.

    His speech notes.

    From the notes, it starts with normal inspirational speech garbage-- life pro-tip: do not repeat stupid parables saying that blind people have limited perspectives to large audiences-- then bitcoin comes up in the middle:

    I know this might feel polarizing but I encourage you to keep an open mind. Right now, I see Bitcoin as a very misunderstood asset class. It is decentralized and finite which means no government can print more at will. In the early days, the exchanges for Bitcoin were prone to hacks and fraud. But this issue has been solved with the recent launch of bitcoin ETFs backed by the world’s 2 largest asset managers, BlackRock and Fidelity. And you can hold these ETFs in your retirement accounts just like you hold the S&P 500.

    I’d love to do a demo for you: So here are 4 quarters. Inflation after 4 years has turned this into 3 quarters of purchasing power. Now if we apply some innovation and open-mindedness… Investing in your financial literacy will unlock so much freedom and possibilities for you.

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        I often thing back about the smug coiners mocking the TSA agent looking for physical bitcoins on a pro bitcoin person, when they do stuff like put bitcoin data in actual coins or make bitcoin coins.

        (It does amaze me a little bit none of them seem to got that this was actually bad for bitcoin, as this just shows how hard to understand it all is for normal people, and them doing it themselves is just confusing more people intentionally)

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        Imagine going to university only to learn that the president falls for grifters that 10 year olds can detect.

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    Google has supplemented their AI customer service backend with a just as stupid AI front-end. They’re pushing you to make refund claims with “Google AI”. It’s a chat bot, and you’re pushed to use it to see the status of your refunds. Clicking a button and viewing a table of refund requests is apparently too Web 2.0, so instead you can ask a chatbot to pull up that status of your refunds one…by…one. It’s the second least useful use of a chatbot I’ve ever seen personally, right behind the chatbot they put into my office’s seating software.

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    Sam Bankman-Fried interviewed by Puck News!

    this has been going around to great publicity from all!

    it’s an insufferably vapid and self-serving rehash of Sam’s late 2022 crime confession tour. i can see why Puck grabbed for the exclusive, but jesus fuck nobody needs to hear from this conman again. Anyway, this copy isn’t paywalled.

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      I swear to god, starting a nature vs. nurture debate in a place leaning even slightly libertarian just breaks my brain because I never understand what point they’re even trying to make.

      Half of them seem to argue that this is proof rich people stay rich and poor people stay poor (although I fail to see from which side they’re coming) while the other half uses it as thin-veiled excuses to be racist without mentioning race.

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      I like his reply to the second (expunged) comment as well: “AI won’t take our jobs, it will just create value but even if it does take all the jobs we won’t be poor because GDP will go up and when number go up, we steal underpants, ???, PROFIT!”

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      For such ostensibly smart people, the basics of finance and economics are surprisingly elusive!

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        not that we should complain too much about this: it’s given them the loss of the castle, the loss of a university-shielded wastebasket think tank, and may yet give them some more losses at scale!

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      Don’t forget Tiffany. Chick got a 13 carat diamond engagement ring from her fellow lucky sperm club member billionaire husband.

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    can’t wait to see how the felon musk stans try to excuse this one (archive)

    The company said in its blog post that the problem began in late February, but it has since been able to compensate for the lost data

    ah yes, because the lost data is the problem, but the thing floating in someone’s brain after coming loose 3 months ago isn’t something to speak up about. totes fine.

    and there’s a certain kind of regularity to keeping the lid on that news. like it was a choice to take that action. if only there were words for something like a pattern? of behaviour? if only[0]

    [0] - (with apologies to stealing the phrasing from mmfish)

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      in the last couple of years I’ve gotten back into sound (used to work live/tv sound ages back, been trying to learn more production and shit) and as a result of that I’ve gotten to know a looooooot of synth/production/effect/… related things

      and christ it hurts to listen to that

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        I thought that the overproduction and heavy autotune was appropriate to the subject.

        On topic:

        “Tape machines ought to be big and cumbersome and difficult to use, if only to keep the riff-raff out.”

        –Steve Albini

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          gonna have to read that piece to get the context of the remark. also have a nuanced position on both the things you point to, but you’re definitely correct about the use of this in this context

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          The obvious weird pauses (between superhuman and AI and the halfway part where suddenly nothing happens) because the AI used to made this doesn’t really understand music are also very appropriate.

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        That is not the only bad thing, check the right side of the moons opening image, why is the moon hairy?

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      So what exactly happens to people who get really into Scott et al. and then realize that they’re racist? I mean people like OP who genuinely seemed shocked by how buddy buddy their “unorthodox” intellectuals are with blatant racists.

      Do they slowly disengage from rationalist-spheres, or do they just become cryptoracists like all the other idw types?

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        They start reading sneerclub and then see that the stereotypes about hwo horrible the place is are not true. Then they post, then they are lost.

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        Also what the fuck?

        In your mind, is a racist who “possesses strong animus towards non-whites” a special category of person with which we should not engage in any kind of discussion? Or if we should not be casual towards them, how should we act? Why?

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          is this trying to say “discrimination against racists is the real racism”? … Would that be “racismism”?

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            “should we really treat violent racists any differently from how we would casually treat a neighbour? what is it really you expect me to do do? why are you so ridiculous?”

            just some casual afternoon reframing of violent racism and dehumanising anyone that isn’t like themselves, no biggie

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      Scott is of the opinion that being able to maintain peaceable discourse with people who you deeply disagree with on political issues is an important feature of society which we shouldn’t readily make exceptions to.

      “Scott being nice to racists and reviewing their books positively actually means he’s less racist” is a good rhetorical trick.

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        It’s also a patently idiotic philosophy boiling down to basically negotiating with terrorists.

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        HBD is a legit line of scientific inquiry you guys, it’s not just eugenics obsessed weirdoes and fascists trying to bring back birthright as the primary path to privilege.

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      You can like a thinker without endorsing all of their beliefs, even if their beliefs are evil. Why do people like Schmitt and Heidegger even though they were fascists? Or Foucault given his views on the age of consent? I agree that Hanania’s views are relevant context, but I think it’s fine to write a book review that doesn’t try to analyse the author’s motivations or the book’s place in a wider political context.

      Hanania is clearly analogous to Foucault and Heidegger, and also is it even wrong to completely divorce a work from all context.

      I think Scott was simply more interested in writing an article on arguments aginst civil rights law than an article on whether Hanania is engaged in an insidious project to smuggle rascist ideas into the mainstream via his legal arguments, and frankly I find that kind of review more interesting too. Perphaps this is irresponsible, but at the end of the day Scott is a modestly influential blogger that just likes to write about things he finds interesting.

      uwu smallbean blogger with absolutely no agenda besides the pursuit of truth and civility strikes again.