Anyone who ever accidentally fires their loaded gun should lose their firearm privileges. And that includes cops, such as the one who recently accidentally fired his gun while using it as a fucking flashlight at the Columbia protest.
I think that’s a pretty “common sense” measure that both sides of the second amendment debate should be able to mostly agree on. There may need to be more nuance for it to be in line with the second amendment constitutionally, such as it being a privilege lost only for a number of years and which can be restored after taking a gun safety class, or some such. But it sure would be a start.
Unintentional discharges happen. If you work with firearms enough, it’s going to happen one day. Some are lucky and it never happens, but the odds are against you. It’s happened to me a couple of times, actually.
Here is a video of an F-Class shooter, who shoots thousands of rounds per year and is extremely good at what he does, explaining how it happened to him: https://youtu.be/ZIItyX1B1vI?si=_y4WAKLY88wJ3LiT
People who respect firearms should have layers of process to prevent an unintentional discharge from hurting anyone. The dude in his kitchen did not.
So no. I simply cannot agree with your point as it doesn’t make any sense when you look at the whole picture. If you were to say people who never respect gun safety and are blatantly careless should have their firearms taken away, I could agree with you.
That’s fair. I did say there probably needs to be more nuance and I could certainly learn more on the topic. However, the argument doesn’t apply in this case. The cop should not have been using his weapon as a flashlight. You know that rule about not aiming your weapon at something you don’t want to shoot? One of the four most basic rules of firearm safety? Big failure on this guy’s part.
I’m not even anti-gun, but it sure would be nice to see some other pro 2A people acknowledge when someone else has done something poorly, such as used their gun as a flashlight.
That seems stupid, using a gun as a flashlight I mean. I don’t know anything about that situation, but I suppose I would come to that same conclusion if I found any articles about it, or had even heard about it.
Call a spade a spade. If the cop was being an idiot, he was an idiot. I simply cannot speak to every story I hear about though.
When it comes to my own stuff, I go to a private range and the people there are serious about safety. Anyone I associate with would likely also take a gun away from an idiot as quick as I would and nobody would give two-fucks if they were a cop or not.
Unintentional discharges happen. If you work with firearms enough, it’s going to happen one day.
Initially I brushed this off, but the more I thought about it then more it’s possible. The thing I was missing is that an accidental discharge could happen at the range with the gun pointed in a safe direction aimed at something you intend to destroy. It’s not just about accidental discharges when people are being stupid (using a gun as a flashlight because that’s where you have a flashlight mounted).
Anyone who ever accidentally fires their loaded gun should lose their firearm privileges. And that includes cops, such as the one who recently accidentally fired his gun while using it as a fucking flashlight at the Columbia protest.
I think that’s a pretty “common sense” measure that both sides of the second amendment debate should be able to mostly agree on. There may need to be more nuance for it to be in line with the second amendment constitutionally, such as it being a privilege lost only for a number of years and which can be restored after taking a gun safety class, or some such. But it sure would be a start.
Unintentional discharges happen. If you work with firearms enough, it’s going to happen one day. Some are lucky and it never happens, but the odds are against you. It’s happened to me a couple of times, actually.
Here is a video of an F-Class shooter, who shoots thousands of rounds per year and is extremely good at what he does, explaining how it happened to him: https://youtu.be/ZIItyX1B1vI?si=_y4WAKLY88wJ3LiT
People who respect firearms should have layers of process to prevent an unintentional discharge from hurting anyone. The dude in his kitchen did not.
So no. I simply cannot agree with your point as it doesn’t make any sense when you look at the whole picture. If you were to say people who never respect gun safety and are blatantly careless should have their firearms taken away, I could agree with you.
That’s fair. I did say there probably needs to be more nuance and I could certainly learn more on the topic. However, the argument doesn’t apply in this case. The cop should not have been using his weapon as a flashlight. You know that rule about not aiming your weapon at something you don’t want to shoot? One of the four most basic rules of firearm safety? Big failure on this guy’s part.
There are many rules, but always treating a firearm as it’s loaded is tied for first place. Situational awareness is up there as well.
I’m not even anti-gun, but it sure would be nice to see some other pro 2A people acknowledge when someone else has done something poorly, such as used their gun as a flashlight.
That seems stupid, using a gun as a flashlight I mean. I don’t know anything about that situation, but I suppose I would come to that same conclusion if I found any articles about it, or had even heard about it.
Call a spade a spade. If the cop was being an idiot, he was an idiot. I simply cannot speak to every story I hear about though.
When it comes to my own stuff, I go to a private range and the people there are serious about safety. Anyone I associate with would likely also take a gun away from an idiot as quick as I would and nobody would give two-fucks if they were a cop or not.
Initially I brushed this off, but the more I thought about it then more it’s possible. The thing I was missing is that an accidental discharge could happen at the range with the gun pointed in a safe direction aimed at something you intend to destroy. It’s not just about accidental discharges when people are being stupid (using a gun as a flashlight because that’s where you have a flashlight mounted).