• Soyweiser@awful.systems
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      7 months ago

      It was more Soylent green, but it also is partially based on (friend of the club) the writings of C Stross yes. I think he also has a written lecture on corps being slow paper clipping AGI somewhere.

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        7 months ago

        That is a beautiful comparison. Terrifying, but beautifully fitting.

        I read Stross right after Banks. I think if I hadn’t, I’d be an AI-hype-bro. Banks it the potential that could be, Stross is what we’ll inevitably turn AI into.

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          7 months ago

          Banks neatly sidesteps the “AI will inevitably kill us” scenario by making the Minds keep humans around for amusement/freshness. Part of the reasons for the Culture-Idiran war in Consider Phlebas and Look to Windward was that the Idirans did not want Minds in charge of their society.

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            7 months ago

            Noone was trying to force that on them though, the actual reason IIRC correctly that Idirans had a religious imperative for expansion, and the Culture had a moral imperative to prevent other sentients’ suffering at the hands of the Idirans.

            IMO he mostly sidestepped the issue by clarifying that this is NOT a future version of “us”

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              7 months ago

              OK I misremembered that part. It makes sense that after suffering trillions of losses the Culture would take steps to prevent the Idirans from doing it again.

              And by “us” I meant fleshy meatbags, as opposed to Minds. Although in Excession he does raise the issue that there might be “psychotic” Minds. Gray Area’s heart(?) is in the right place but it’s easy to imagine them becoming a vigilante and pre-emptively nuking an especially annoying civilization.