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    image of a press release i am not sure how credible (cant verify what weather this was only streamed to one of the 3 platforms) this is and I’m all for bashing on a nazi but if what hes saying is true then we probably shouldn’t spread this as gospel

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      It would seem even more nonsensical that if he was streaming to 3 platforms at once using a single application, that a hacker could just hack a single one of those in-progress OBS streams and replace the content while leaving the others alone, without rebooting the stream or affecting the rest of OBS. But I have no clue what happened to be clear, I just don’t see how he was streaming to three places using a single OBS and somehow 1/3 of the output changes. Because it’s not like if just his Cozy got hacked, that would somehow allow a hacker to step into an-progress pre-recorded stream and take it over, you’d have to close the existing stream coming from whatever “webapp” he is referring to and start a new one, which is not what it sounds like happened. I’m not a OBS, Cozy, or streaming expert by any means, just my opinions based on this super limited info.

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        the stream had ended on all 3 hosting sites and then on 1 of the hosting sites a stream started up after seconds of the stream ending. it depicted a shock style compilation of gay porn. it was the type of video used to troll and not the sort for getting off to

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      I don’t support Nick Fanta or any other political streaming mouthpieces, but just as you said this sounds like a plausible explanation and if true then we’d all be better off acknowledging the truth rather than running with sensationalist lies.

      That is to say, the people that downvoted your comment are children who can’t employ critical thinking to see the uncertainty here-- or perhaps they know something we don’t.

      Regardless, fuck this Nazi streamer in particular, and all like him. But goddamn people make sure you have your facts straight otherwise you make your opponents look more credible than yourself you tools. Seriously, you make everyone who supports your view look like idiots by being blatantly obvious idiots.

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        he sounds like a class A twat tbf.

        saw a clip of the stream and seems very much like he was hacked as the video was not normal porn but a compilation akin to fail/shock videos.

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          was it just the porn, or was there anything that would indicate he was watching it? Because yeah it sounds very much like he might have been hacked based on the description of it only occuring on the one platform-- if it didn’t go through OBS, then it obviously was not him forgetting to turn off his stream…

          but yeah, again, the dude has always sounded like a twat regardless

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            Telegram link in top right of the stream, and just porn full screen with multiple clips one after another, mostly fisting but hard to tell with the video being censored and seems to be sped up considerably.

            Funny enough though I did see earlier reports of viewers seeing a tab open in the nazis browser linking to trans porn this was last year but ive not looked too much into that yet.

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        You’re admonishing us for not giving the (incredibly cliched) claims of an literal unabashed nazi the benefit of the doubt, but we’re the tools…? The man got caught looking at gay porn without disabling all his connections and now he must have been ‘hacked’ by someone who “most likely isn’t Israeli intelligence”. Take a look at yourself, man. He’s a NAZI. He doesn’t need or deserve your bizarrely moralizing support.

        • I am admonishing you for not acknowledging uncertainty that contributes to the credibility of your argument. It doesn’t matter who your opponent is-- if you use a false argument against them, you tarnish the credibility of your side.

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      It’s not that I disagree with anything you said, except this. “If what hes saying is true then we probably shouldn’t spread this as gospel”

      Why not? Fuck em. If John Q public knows who this guy is, it’s probably his connections to Kanye and Alex Jones. Maybe MTG. It’s up to the audience to scratch beneath the surface. If they do and they let people misrepresenting a nazi watching gay porn effect their opinion on fucking anything then John q public is a piece of shit desperate for both sides trash. If that’s the case, fuck em. That’s worst case scenario, best case scenario is more make up on all those fucking clowns.

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        Fuck em indeed but spreading falsities will only discredit the left. Besides character assignation is low brow fascist behaviour.

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      I’m not a big fan of this line of thinking, because it very quickly leads into “Every homophobe is a closeted homosexual”, which is some genuinely insane levels of victim blaming when you actually think about it. Are we seriously going to suggest that queer people are to blame for our own oppression? And for that matter, if homophobia is only enacted by closeted queer people, then what made them closeted in the first place? In a world where no straight person is every homophobic, no queer person would ever have felt any shame about who they are.

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        it very quickly leads into “Every homophobe is a closeted homosexual”, which is some genuinely insane levels of victim blaming when you actually think about it.

        I was being intentionally hyperbolic for comedic effect rather than trying to be totally nuanced.

        There’s plenty of examples of people who are outwardly liberal being homophobic- it happens all the time towards people who are seen as ‘not on their team’ ie how often Democrats (online, comedians, etc) will mock someone like lindsey graham because he’s a bit queeny.

        You also see it when liberals do stuff like portray Putin and Trump kissing because men kissing bad, right?

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          To be clear, this wasn’t a “call out” or whatever the fuck the kids call it now. I just think it’s really important to always interrogate the implications of our arguments. Things we say in jest can still reinforce dangerous or damaging ideas.

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        Historically the church and then law made them closeted in the first place!

        It wasn’t always abnormal for (wealthy) men to have male concubines or lovers- until the Abrahamic religions that is

        The cool thing about (religious) propaganda is it doesn’t have to be true, it’s only biased on faith. Faith that these white men know the divine and will stop you from having a fearful afterlife. They don’t need proof, just faith. Few people get butthurt no one wants to hurt their butts and they ban it for everyone

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        Are we seriously going to suggest that queer people are to blame for our own oppression?

        No…?

        I’ve never seen anyone make this claim.

        It makes some sense that the people who violently bottle up all of their impulses, who are then the most unhappy about it, just to fit in with their right wing community are then the ones who A) think about it the most often, and B) imagine that the “devil’s temptation” and the repression thereof is normal for most people, when it really isn’t.

        —But this isn’t the same as saying that only gay people are homophobic. It’s just a kind of pathology that leads to being the most militant about it. You end up working the hardest to fit in because you’re the most at risk of losing that.

        But even more than that, I’m not sure I believe straightness is really “real.” If everyone is “a little bit queer”, and conservatives are the only ones rejecting that, then this is just an indication that their ideas don’t really pan out. They would claim straightness is normal, default, but they can’t hold themselves to it; it’s not actually possible.

        So, those are two different answers to the one problem you’ve put forward, but in either case, or neither, I don’t really see this as the gays attacking themselves. The right wing is just kinda wack, you know?

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          If you’ve never seen anyone make the claim that every homophobe is a closeted homosexual, then congratulations, welcome to the Internet, this must be a really exciting first day for you.

          And if you read it a little more carefully, you’ll notice that I was not accusing the previous commenter of making that claim. I said that their argument felt dangerously close to making that claim. It’s important to interrogate the implications of our arguments, even (in fact, especially) when they’re made in jest or for the purposes of mockery. It’s all too easy to get ourselves into mindsets that seem reasonable, but actually have really dangerous implications.

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            If you’ve never seen anyone make the claim that every homophobe is a closeted homosexual

            No. This one:

            queer people are to blame for our own oppression

            This is a dangerous implication, but I don’t see it being made. In this thread. And elsewhere. I don’t see people, even conservatives, making this accusation.

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              Because no one makes that accusation directly. I’m really trying not to be a dick here, but you do know what “implication” means, right?

              If every homophobe is a closeted queer person then that automatically implies that homophobia is only perpetuated by queer people. That’s not what people think they’re saying when they make that claim, but it is the only logical conclusion.

              And just because you didn’t think about the implications of something, doesn’t change the fact that they’re there.

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                Your interpretation implies that the queer element of the oppressive queer conservative is the more substantive one.

                I think most people correctly recognize it is the conservative element that is the more oppressive one.

                I think even conservatives recognize this because the only time they don’t want credit for the nasty things they do is when they’d get in trouble. They like the oppression. They want the credit.

                So, you are hearing people blame queer people. And I am hearing them blame conservatives.

                A queer person is fine. Naturally. A queer conservative, well… what happened, right?

                The fear you have then, I suppose, is that someone might hear the word “queer” or “lgbt” and think “Ah. You must be a conservative. Too bad you banned gay marriage for yourselves, hm?”, which is something I’m really trying to impress on you here: does not grok with me.

                I don’t see this implication you’re worried about being reinforced—that means reflected in the other things people do and say—because this idea of the self-inflicted wound is not useful to anyone’s political ends.

                Granted, maybe someday in the future, conservatives will try to use ideas like this to absolve themselves, the same way holocaust denial works.

                But today, I only see people pointing out a strong hypocrisy among the conservative community. One that is conservative-self imposed: by living so inauthentically, they are placing themselves into a pressure cooker.

                And further, because the ideal conservative lifestyle is so strict, as authoritarians are won’t to do, everyone is placed in this pressure cooker.

                Heterosexuality, a different sexual pathology, is expressed very conservatively in the incel community.

                Like, on some level, you are arguing against the adage “everything is about sex, and sex is about power,” which, as far as I know, is pretty well regarded. It’s not a secret that the right wing is insanely insecure.


                I am sorry to have gotten a bit condescending here, but then I should be asking why you are giving me lessons on subtext.

                I’ve looked at your comment history, you seem like a smart person. I don’t really understand where this is coming from.

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                  If all black birds are ravens, then if a bird is black, by definition it is a raven.

                  If all homophobes are queer, then by definition all homophobia is enacted by people who are queer.

                  Therefore, the statement “every homophobe is a closeted queer person” automatically excludes all straight people from being capable of homophobia. The moment a straight person does something homophobic, they must, according to this line of thinking, actually be a closeted queer person.

                  And while the intent is to point out conservative hypocrisy, the effect, very subtly, is to craft a universe where straight people are absolved of any culpability for the existence of homophobia. It becomes, by definition, a queer problem.

                  I am not arguing against any of the things you seem to think I’m arguing against, nor am I making any of the points you seem to think I’m making. Everything in your previous comment is a response to an invention that exists solely in your head. I am making the point that I have just stated, as plainly as it is possible to state it. If you’re still not getting it, sit back, have a cup of coffee, and read it again.

      • I think usually when I see that idea, is more along the lines of “doth protest too much, methinks.” A lot of the most vocal homophobes are at least slightly bi or at least seem to like either , partly just because of how common being at least slightly bi is and they go out of their way to deny it. That can be true and still much more casual homophobia by straight people can still be the most common source of homophobia and what pushes people to extremes in their denial. But I also wonder if the argument is sometimes made in hopes of making people afraid of being too homophobic in fear of being seen as gay.

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      A few of them are true Captain Planet cartoon villains in their hearts (McConnel, MangoBastard), but for the most part yes.

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        Every single member of Donald’s cabinet was comically evil. Like the sort of appointments that would happen in a comic book so that the reader knows for certain they are completely corrupt.

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        I once heard someone try to say Captain Planet was actually harmful to discussions on environmentalism because it portrayed the “bad guys” aka oil barons, loggers etc. as physically deformed monster men who were cartoonishly Evil with a capital E, and people who watched the show as a child treat people who work at power plants or refineries or whatever as if they’re Just Evil and don’t have room to debate that stable grid power is exceptionally important.

        But no turns out they genuinely are physically deformed monster men who are cartoonishly Evil with a capital E.

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      The evidence is mounting. Pretty sure this has been researched by psychologists, does anyone know of a good book about this?

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      I’m yet to see a radical be against something and it not be because they hate themselves. Either they want others to suffer like them, or to struggle like they had to, or to not let the “unworthy” be more similar to them.

      • You can’t be gay! - probably closeted gay
      • you can’t work from home! - probably is a bad worker if noone is watching over them
      • You can’t abort! - probably did it themselves and regretted or are the result of a failed attempt
      • You can’t have x! - probably has x and doesn’t want others to be equal to them
      • You can’t use drugs! - probably uses drugs
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        I’m pretty sure my mother, who is staunchly against abortion, is only against it because my grandmother offered to pay to abort me and my mother refused the offer and regrets it. She was 18 and her aunt then refused to pay for her college because she got knocked up. But you get what you get, and she got a gay son. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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    Hey, Alex Jones!..remember asking Nick when he was gonna get married and have kids and you kept telling him how good looking he was and he kept deflecting the subject and telling you that it wasnt his priority? Remember that? Just last week? Remember?

    You just couldn’t pick up the cues, could you?

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      Wait, wasn’t it Nick Fuentes that said sleeping with men was less gay than sleeping with women or something? This is the weasely little fuckface with a voice like Ben Shapiro and a face like a twink fuckboi?

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          lol I was apparently remembering the first part correctly too:

          Fuentes complained about “people calling me gay because I’ve never had a girlfriend.”

          “I think if anything — if anything — it makes me less gay. If anything, it makes me not gay — as opposed to less gay, not that there’s any gay, but it makes me not gay,” he argued.

          Fuentes went on to describe how he has never been in a romantic relationship or had sex with a woman, but is “more heterosexual than anybody.”

          “If we’re really being honest, never having a girlfriend, never having sex with a woman, really makes you more heterosexual, because honestly, dating women is gay,” he claimed.

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      Didn’t Alex Jones watch trans porn or something? Between this and that, you can wonder if there’s anything real in these people’s life. Must be hard to always pretend.

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    It’s like these conservatives are just closet homos who can’t seem to be able to get out of the closet.

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      Isn’t it weird how men who spend a lot of time thinking about gay sex keep turning out to be gay?

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      The worst part is they are ruining for all homos because they are so self hating.

      Honestly they can get fucked.

      I’m sorry their mum and dad can’t accept you want to take cock up the bum but it’s no reason to go around stopping other perfectly happy and well adjusted people from doing it.

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    I thought this was no secret anymore. It’s been reported on before I think. Not that it should surprise anyone about his taste in porn.

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    Honest question. I’m vaguely familiar with streaming software and fairly tech literate.

    How does something like this accidentally happen?
    Also, OP says he forgot to turn off the camera and masturbated but that doesn’t seem to be what the video depicts?

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      To be honest, it really looks like the stream got hacked. In the video you can see that the stream ends, and then suddenly comes back up with the porn full screen.

      Hilarious either way.

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        Yeah. I’m with you on this one. It looks and seems exactly like he’s describing it. I get we all want it to be true but hive mind isn’t facts.

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      It doesn’t happen that often with professionals because they keep their work and personal programs on completely separate computers.

      This is one of a myriad of reasons why you do that.

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      I’ve once forgotten to end the recording of a short clip and ended up with something like hour of black with occasional clicking sounds at the end, it happens

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        The video source got switched to a, frankly, suspiciously fast placed montage of hardcore gay porn. That’s not the same as leaving the stream on a blank video feed with occasional clicks.

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          What was suspicious about it? Are you saying it wasn’t him who decided to watch a hardcore gay compilation? Are you saying it was just randomly served to him by his isp? Man, that’s never happened to me, so weird.

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          It’s possible he was capturing his entire screen instead of just some window, then forgot to turn off whatever software he uses. It’s definitely possible.

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      Yeah… Its a bit weird. It would be satisfying if it were true but it’s fishy for sure… I guess if you were screen sharing in the wrong browser? But stream ended usually means stream ended… i dunno how you accidentally go live at that point… Is there anyone else referncing this? Good one, but just looks like an edit.

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        Steam ended as in “the official steam ended” and then he forgot to actually end it and accidently streamed himself jerking it to gay porn.