• OpenStars@discuss.online
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    7 months ago

    Russia seems like a country where Authoritarianism has “won”, and now the USA looks like it wants to join in on that “fun”. :-|

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      7 months ago

      You know, I often think that Putin is a progressive politician. Just the meaning of progress that exists in the society differs to the one that is in the reality

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        7 months ago

        There is an external definition of “progressive” though, part of which is all about minorities rights. Does he really identify himself with progressivism, or does he just think that he’s correct, maybe even that the still he’s doing is so correct that it’s beyond the scale of progressive vs. conservative philosophies?

        In contrast, conservativism is all about “traditional values” and authoritarian thinking. So like a progressive may not like LGBTQ+ stuff but they will defend their right to exist, while a conservative will actively work against their existence and even to take steps to force people to conform (e.g. electroshock therapy).

        On the other hand, while Russia seems to be pushing the message of conservativism hard, leaving no room for “progressive” thought, Putin himself may be more of an opportunist and simply uses people and even the whole country as a means towards his own ends of personal gratification. Which at his age is probably to leave behind a legacy that will cause him to be remembered (which will definitely happen, but probably not how he hoped!).

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          7 months ago

          There is an external definition of “progressive” though, part of which is all about minorities rights

          I don’t like it. It’s wishful thinking that history progresses in the direction you want.

          In contrast, I mean that history is progressing towards more people like Putin and more regions like Russia.

          Putin himself may be more of an opportunist and simply uses people and even the whole country as a means towards his own ends of personal gratification

          Aren’t they all?

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      7 months ago

      and now the USA looks like it wants to join in on that “fun”.

      The US joined that club before the ink on the constitution had dried. It has never left.

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          7 months ago

          Not really… the white middle class in the US is coming down from their cozy New Deal high and realizing all the “soft power” was literally just empty propaganda. There is a good reason why the US has inspired some of the most evil events of the modern era - Putin cannot hold a candle to that.

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            7 months ago

            I am pretty sure that genocide is bad - even when the USA/Russia/China/Israel/Palestine/other country of choice supports it.