Elon Musk (father of 11) supports their cause. Thousands follow their ideology. Malcolm and Simone Collins are on a mission to make it easier for everyone to have multiple children. But are they really model parents?
The highlight for me is coming up with some weird pseudoscience justification for why it’s okay to hit your kids.
Please when referencing specific details about a location name the area you’re talking about rather than say ‘here’ it’s so annoying having to try and guess what you mean or if you’re just making stuff up.
According to Wikipedia the first country to ban corporal punishment of children was Sweden in 1979 which is why I suggested the last possibility.
I don’t really think it’s just an English language thing in most areas of the world, again you didn’t say where you’re talking about so it’s not possible to take any useful information from your post. A lot of non English speaking countries are very intense about corporal punishment, ‘spare the rod spoil the child’ is not an English maxim it’s from proverbs originally in Hebrew and popularized in Latin which was popular all over the Christian and Muslim world. The Indian, Chinese, etc cultures all have similar histories and similar cultural battles going on today so it’s not like it’s strictly an abrahamic thing either.
I don’t get why you’d claim that this is specific to English speaking people? or maybe you 1qmisused the word anglophone?
If you walked by some strangers having a conversation with each other out in public and one of them said something you didn’t understand, would you go running up to them saying “please don’t talk to each other without explaining everything to me, I think you’re making stuff up because I don’t have all the context”?
(You would not.)
If you have something to ask OP, ask it. Politely. Don’t come in to somebody else’s conversation demanding context and calling them a liar.
@gnomicutterance@VirtualOdour Well, exactly. For the benefit of Mr Odour here, I’m in Austria (that’s the one without the kangaroos) where although physical punishment of children was first made an explicit offence in 1989 the “right” of parents to hit their children was removed from §145 of the Allgemeine Bürgerliche Gesetzbuch in 1977. Here’s the 1811 text that was deleted. Happy now?
@gnomicutterance There’s also a handy-dandy map there showing how in the “developed” (I use the term advisedly, as usual) world the English-speaking countries are obvious outliers.
Which would have been a useful thing to include in your comment if you wanted people to understand what you’re talking about.
I know I’m the badie for expecting people to use basic sense when constructing an argument in a public forum but if people don’t express what they mean then there’s no point them talking.
And yes it’s an interesting thing you point out and there may be some merit to it
People need to learn the difference between speaking in private and in a public forum, maybe I was rude but people refusing to use basic consideration is rude too and I’m fed up of people shitting up every discussion with faulty logic hidden by concealed details.
Say the relevant information required by your assertion, it’s not difficult.
Please when referencing specific details about a location name the area you’re talking about rather than say ‘here’ it’s so annoying having to try and guess what you mean or if you’re just making stuff up.
According to Wikipedia the first country to ban corporal punishment of children was Sweden in 1979 which is why I suggested the last possibility.
I don’t really think it’s just an English language thing in most areas of the world, again you didn’t say where you’re talking about so it’s not possible to take any useful information from your post. A lot of non English speaking countries are very intense about corporal punishment, ‘spare the rod spoil the child’ is not an English maxim it’s from proverbs originally in Hebrew and popularized in Latin which was popular all over the Christian and Muslim world. The Indian, Chinese, etc cultures all have similar histories and similar cultural battles going on today so it’s not like it’s strictly an abrahamic thing either.
I don’t get why you’d claim that this is specific to English speaking people? or maybe you 1qmisused the word anglophone?
If you walked by some strangers having a conversation with each other out in public and one of them said something you didn’t understand, would you go running up to them saying “please don’t talk to each other without explaining everything to me, I think you’re making stuff up because I don’t have all the context”?
(You would not.)
If you have something to ask OP, ask it. Politely. Don’t come in to somebody else’s conversation demanding context and calling them a liar.
@gnomicutterance @VirtualOdour Well, exactly. For the benefit of Mr Odour here, I’m in Austria (that’s the one without the kangaroos) where although physical punishment of children was first made an explicit offence in 1989 the “right” of parents to hit their children was removed from §145 of the Allgemeine Bürgerliche Gesetzbuch in 1977. Here’s the 1811 text that was deleted. Happy now?
Also, I was perfectly able to figure out you meant Austria just by searching Child Corporate Punishment Laws on wikipedia for the string “1977”.
@gnomicutterance There’s also a handy-dandy map there showing how in the “developed” (I use the term advisedly, as usual) world the English-speaking countries are obvious outliers.
Which would have been a useful thing to include in your comment if you wanted people to understand what you’re talking about.
I know I’m the badie for expecting people to use basic sense when constructing an argument in a public forum but if people don’t express what they mean then there’s no point them talking.
And yes it’s an interesting thing you point out and there may be some merit to it
People need to learn the difference between speaking in private and in a public forum, maybe I was rude but people refusing to use basic consideration is rude too and I’m fed up of people shitting up every discussion with faulty logic hidden by concealed details.
Say the relevant information required by your assertion, it’s not difficult.
“basic consideration” the fuck? you fucking walked into the thread sight unseen and started throwing your toys out
find some grass, and sit on it
this person has some choice takes in their history, and shows a repeated pattern of replying
you won’t believe what happens next!
I’m fed up with you shitting up this discussion you weren’t invited to participate in
i’m afraid your posting is not up to the standards of sneerclub, this way to the egress