• EndlessApollo@lemmy.world
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    Hexbear, the place that’s supposedly full of trans people and allies, yet they all simp for transphobic regimes who’d have them gulag’d or worse. Yall are gross as shit, we don’t liberate ourselves by acting like totalitarian regimes who murder queer people are the best. Yall should be fucking ashamed, you’re no better than Caitlin Jenner voting for trump

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      you’re on a clown instance with hits like “I dont see trans women as women” and regularly gets spammed with transphobic diatribes, why not move to a better instance rather than associate with filth?

      say whatever you want about tankies (re: the dreaded wokes), theyve carved out a safe spot for trans people and the numbers show it

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        Hexbear users don’t think any differently, in fact they’re worse than average, they just don’t say that part out loud. You genuinely think these fuckers that fetishize dictators who imprisoned queer people give half a shit about queer rights? You think people that jack off to places like Russia and China that punish homosexuality feel anything but disgust towards us? That’s naive as shit and I hope you get your head out of your your ass some day

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          the west punishes queer people just as much as russia in many places. china is basically neutral, though the largest cities, particularly shanghai, have a lot of trans resources. communists support progressive historical forces, you cannot have progress under imperialism, and many right wing and queerphobic countries are in a struggle against imperialism, of which often imposed these queerphobic ideas on them. i assume you’re an anarchist and trans, right? you need to get your head out of your ass and stop attacking other trans people that agree with you on 99.9% of things.

          Hexbear users don’t think any differently, in fact they’re worse than average, they just don’t say that part out loud.

          this is just fucking absurd. straight up lies.

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            “you cannot have progress under imperialism, and many right wing and queerphobic countries are in a struggle against imperialism.” so you just don’t give a shit about progress, you think it’s a thing no government is gonna do so you’ve just given up on it? Goddamn I hope I’m wrong, that’s really fucking sad and I’d like you to actually give a shit about our rights rather than going TERF and supporting people and movements that want us dead

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            Hey look, it’s a tankie that jerks off to Stalin and thinks Russia isn’t imperialist! Go fuck yourself, you cunts should stay in your own instances instead of spreading your trash all over the rest of the fediverse. Nobody with half a heart likes you, and nobody with half a brain thinks you want anything for me other than to be thrown in a gulag for being a degenerate and an anti-revolutionary (an anarchist-leaning nb who doesn’t want to be murdered or conversion therapy’d)

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              Nobody with half a heart likes you, and nobody with half a brain thinks you want anything for me other than to be thrown in a gulag for being a degenerate and an anti-revolutionary (an nb who doesn’t want to be murdered or conversion therapy’d)

              i think you’re projecting and are just full of hatred. i am in an extremely loving polycule and my job is running a community ran homeless shelter for queer people, which is honestly just a dream job for me. all i feel is love, all you spout is hate 🤷‍♀️ hope you figure your shit out

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                Why in the fuck would you do things for other queer people, then want desperately for the government to punish us for existing? Who the fuck genuinely thinks that things would be better for us under Stalin than anywhere in the US besides Texas and Florida? Seriously what the fuck is your point? How can you support regimes that would repress the fuck out of you while claiming you’re not full of hate?

                Stalin recriminalized homosexuality. China doesn’t allow “sissy boys” on TV. How the fuck can you consider supporting this scum for even a millisecond? Legit if there’s an explanation for this other than “actually no USSR country ever did anything bad to queer people and if they did we deserved it” let me know. This is fucking bewildering. What kind of queer person simps for governments that try to outlaw their existence?

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                  China has clinics where youth are given the resources for transitioning, while multiple western governments are criminalizing and reducing the means by which to transition.

                  Marcie started the post with data maybe you could back up your extraordinary claims with regard to hexbear users? I doubt you will be able to

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          Before western religion China had many representations of diverse gender identity and accepted homosexuality. Western governments sterilized, imprisoned and killed trans and gay people! This continues to this day, there are more murders of trans people in the united states than Russia or China COMBINED and multiplied by 15!

          Cuba has the most progressive legal framework of protection for trans or gay people in the world.

          No investigation, no right to speak!

          https://transrespect.org/en/map/trans-murder-monitoring/

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    Hexbear is one of those instances that has a bad reputation. One of which is for being anti trans and yet the data says something different, unless they all hate themselves. In my experience of their users though, they’re a decent bunch, polite and insightful. Though admittedly, I’m not in many of the main communities on Lemmy, so tend to miss most things.

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      I feel like most of the hexbear users I’ve run into live up to their negative reputation. Maybe the communities I see just bring out the worst users from that server for some reason.

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        I think it’s about the communities I interact with them in. I’m really not a fan of the mainstream communities and so inadvertently but luckily, avoid trolls for the most part.

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      Polite unless you’re Ukrainian, or any ideology other than ML, or really any reason they decide you’re a degenerate or bourgeoisie or whatever. They constantly brigade what few other instances they’re not banned from (and ones they are banned from with alts). Stop defending tankies, there’s a very good reason we call them red fascists

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      Hexbear has a bad reputation for many reasons, but I’ve never heard anyone claim that they’re anti trans. They are known for being incredibly protective of their trans members.

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        Hexbear’s biggest detractors often call them anti-queer. Mostly because of an idea that western imperialists are at least nice to queer people and that anti-imperialist governments, including historically communist ones, have been staunchly anti-queer across the board. Of course, the truth is more complicated on both sides. Either way, western influence on the world has been a disaster for queer people everywhere.

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        I’ve seen tons of tankies say transphobic stuff, so it’s definitely an element over there. Maybe less than other tankies, but only in the way some conservatives can keep their transphobia quiet enough to watch Blair White or have her as a guest on a podcast or whatever. They don’t hate trans people there less, they’re just deceptive enough to fool people into thinking their dream ML utopia wouldn’t put queer people to death like all the others they love so much. People who aren’t transphobes don’t worship Stalin