• 🇰 🔵 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 ℹ️@yiffit.net
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    27 days ago

    I need such a diagram when I am playing a PC game using a Nintendo controller because they’re the exact opposite of what the Xbox controller guide in the game will say. 😬

    At least with a PlayStation controller, it only shares X as a face button and I am more likely to hit square on a PS game than the actual X on my controller when prompted to hit the Blue X on an Xbox because my X is green.

    Was that as confusing to read as it was to write? Good.

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      27 days ago

      If it makes it easier, you can tell steam to use the Xbox layout for whatever controller you use. My PS4 and 3rd party switch controllers are all “Xbox controllers” to steam so that I don’t get confused.

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        27 days ago

        That is the issue though. The Xbox layout is reverse to the Nintendo layout. So when it says press X in game for the xbox, it’s actually Y on the Nintendo pad.

        There is an option to reverse that specific to Nintendo controllers so that Y functions like X and B functions like A, though.

        Honestly, it would be ideal if developers put all controller prompts in the game and had an option to set it to the one you want (even if you’re not using that particular controller). I have played exactly one game that did this, and I don’t even remember which one it was now. But I loved that option.

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        26 days ago

        You just believe in humanity more than I do. It’s gotta be mean somehow. If she’s on the Switch and that’s the Switch layout, it’s because the husband just wants to distract her or make fun of how she looks down at the controller. The meme also suggests that the husband made the meme, so just publishing the meme and turning his wife into a meme is pretty cruel and harsh. I mean, is this what humanity is? Now we turn our loved ones into memes making fun of them on the Internet? So glad you don’t love me. I mean, if you loved me, maybe you’d make fun of me in a fucking meme.

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            26 days ago

            No escalation. Just that, think about it, memes these days are getting awfully personal. And anti-wife. Love the wife. You married her. Stop shitting on her. Or divorce her so she can be who she was meant to be, namely not referred to as your wife in a meme. You computer nerds from the future sure are eager to get wives and don’t know how to keep them.

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              I think you’re reading a lot of malice into a light-hearted image macro. Hell, I’ve been playing video games for over 40 years and I still have trouble remembering the buttons when playing a game with an Xbox controller layout - this would be really useful for me, and I certainly wouldn’t be upset if someone posted a picture of me using it.

              EDIT: I didn’t even notice this was literally in Wholesome Memes.

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                Me, as the wife, would be distracted with this huge piece of paper under the screen. I’d be looking at the piece of paper instead of the screen. It looks a lot like cruelty. I mean, this meme is just all kinds of wrong. It doesn’t deserve to be a meme. It’s a “my wife” meme, which shouldn’t be in the year 2024. In the year 2024, wives should be posting “my husband” memes and making fun of husbands. You don’t get that. Because as a child you were boring, because you had no imagination. I tell this starkly dooming fact to a lot of people on lemmy. But it seems like this is what I must face now as a lemmy user. I need to communicate with adults who were boring children with no imagination.

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          26 days ago

          Dude, this is a funny story about his wife learning to play games. It’s not making fun of her. It’s having fun with the situation. Couples frequently have fun stories about each other that are about mistakes that showed how much they cared. This one is about a wife who cared about learning to play video games enough that they continued even while struggling with controls, and their spouse who noticed their frustration and created a tool to help them. There’s no mocking happening.

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              26 days ago

              I like how “not malicious” is boring in your mind. You’ve got something wrong with you.

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                It’s boring because it’s a falsehood. You’re malicious, thinking your wives are idiots. I’m another man, telling you men, that you’re a bunch of idiots. I’m actually smarter than you, and you hate it. I already know my IQ and can beat yours because mine is way beyond posting “the wife” memes. As a matter of fact, I’m only here because I’m studying you computer nerd people and entering your responses into a database. I suppose I could be nice and thank you for your response, but you’re such a boring idiot that had no imagination as a child that I really have nothing else to say. When you were a child you had no imagination and you were boring. Now, here you are!

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                  26 days ago

                  How is her not knowing something thinking that she’s an idiot? Helping her learn is the opposite of that. It’s recognizing she’s capable of learning it and helping her. Have you ever learned a new skill and not had muscle memory for it yet? It takes effort and time.

                  Also, you aren’t smarter than me. You may believe that, but if you’re incapable of recognizing that she is learning and this is helpful, then you aren’t very smart.

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    27 days ago

    Is it just me or has someone gone through and down voted every single comment in here?

    Edit: actually every Lemmy world post is showing all comments as having 0 points. Interesting.

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      There’s either a core contingent of professional haters, or there’s a single simple smarter-than-the-average Lemmy admin bot doing the downvoting, because I swear to god every post that’s on this site for more than a few hours gets at least one downvote.

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    27 days ago

    when I was learning to play poker we had the various hand rankings printed up on each wall so you could just look up to see the order.

    This led to an amusing meta where you would see your opponent look at their hand, squint up at the wall and then raise and you knew you were hosed. This then led to bluff glancing at the walls before betting.

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      Leans over to neighbor, “hey I don’t think Tommy is very bright, he keeps looking up at the cheat sheet for a pair every time”

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      This then led to bluff glancing at the walls before betting.

      God, I love it when things like this start to develop when playing games with friends. Especially when it’s a newer player, or maybe even the quiet person that starts doing it - the first time you catch on to someone pulling a trick like this is the best possible feeling of, “you son of a bitch!”

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    27 days ago

    I can’t remember which game it was (something on the Switch, so maybe a Nintendo game) where the game itself told you which button to press by showing four circles on screen (e.g. next to the speech bubble) and only one of these circles is filled out, so instead of a letter, you know you have to press the right button or whatever… I really like this design choice because it’s so intuitive

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      I think it’s all the Switch games, or most of them. It’s part of the system font. It’s at least any game that can be played with a single joy-con because the traditional layout doesn’t match the labels in that configuration.

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        27 days ago

        The “by feel” of Nintendo buttons started on the SNES. X/Y were convex, A/B were concave.

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      27 days ago

      Playing games on pc and getting xbox button hints while using a Playstation or Nintendo controller is a special kind of frustrating. Like anything else, you get used to it, but I think I would like the position based hints you describe a lot better.

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          27 days ago

          Then thé controls become unintuitive. Press the button on the right to jump? Ludicrous.

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            Depends on the system and what you’re used to. I use an Xbox controller for dolphin and the first thing I did was unfuck the right joystick and map the GameCube ABXY onto the xbox’s corresponding buttons. For PlayStation I’d imagine you’d just map it to the buttons that are normally for specific actions. Eg X to jump instead of A on other controllers

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              27 days ago

              I play some Nintendo games on my Steam Deck, and the only thing I have to rewire my brain around is navigating menus (confirm with B). I wouldn’t want to remap the buttons though, because then the in-game actions would feel unnatural.

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      27 days ago

      Most Nintendo Switch games do this. I think part of why is you might be using a pair of Joy-cons or a Nintendo brand controller with the Nintendo ABXY layout, 3rd party controller with the Xbox ABXY layout, a sideways joycon with ABXY buttons but rotated 90 degrees including the labels, or a sideways joycon with unlabeled buttons.

      There’s no way for the game to consistently the way your controller is labeled, but it can know which of the 4 buttons needs to be pressed based on location.

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        Oh god, I want to experience this game for the first time again.

        I got back into video games again during lockdowns and after leaving a very soul-crushing relationship. It was probably the perfect time in my life to experience BotW.

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          Have you ever played Shadow of the Collosus? If not, I think it’ll give a lot of the same vibes that you’re looking for.

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          27 days ago

          How would one go about playing it if they don’t have an Nintendo console?

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              27 days ago

              I don’t spend a lot of time gaming. It would almost certainly be buying it to play just this game.

              Also Nintendo are kind of ducks, so I don’t really want to give them any money.

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                26 days ago

                You could buy a used Switch and install a modchip to play pirated games.

                But yeah, not really worth it if you only want to play 1 specific game and already have a pc powerful enough for emulating it

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                  You can also buy one of the older switch consoles from 2018 which are not patched and you can inject a payload via rcm mode.

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    27 days ago

    I’ll never get over Nintendo’s decision to not have the button letters alphabetical like Xbox controllers do (or even just use shapes like Sony). Whenever I play on my Switch, the Y X buttons almost always throws me off, heh. I know Nintendo is Japanese and they tend to write from right to left, so I’m guessing that’s how it ended up like that initially.

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      When going counter clockwise starting from the bottom, the Xbox controller reads: A, B, Y, X.

      It’s not alphabetical unless you’re reading it like a lightning bolt for some reason. If alphabetical is what you want, a mixture of both would be ideal, making it: A, B, X, Y.

      Besides, Microsoft are the ones that changed the layout, not Nintendo. The confusion when switching controllers is likely by design.

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        Besides, Microsoft are the ones that changed the layout, not Nintendo. The confusion when switching controllers is likely by design.

        Sony also made their bottom button the default “confirm/execute” button and the side right button the “cancel/backout” button. It just feels more intuitive to me.

        I’ve been gaming since the late 80s, so I understand Nintendo was the “first” of the current 3 hardware sellers. Doesn’t change the fact that they’re the outlier now. And it’s not like their controllers have even had the same layout more than once, the SNES and Switch being the only two to share a relatively similar button layout.

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          the SNES and Switch being the only two to share a relatively similar button layout.

          And the Wii/U pro controllers. And Wii U tablet. And the DS and 3DS.

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      27 days ago

      to be fair, nintendo set that standard before both microsoft and sony were even in the console gaming space.

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      Maybe you’re right on the Japan thing, I always thought it was about distance from your thumb. Like A is closest and most common, then B, and some games mostly only use those, and then X, Y, and Z are for menus or less common actions, and of them, x is closest to your thumb. Makes more sense on an N64 controller or GameCube controller, and then the switch controller is just keeping the letters as consistent as possible.

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      Tbf hasn’t the ABXY layout of nintendo consoles been consistent since the snes days, predating xbox? Unless your argument is that you wish they flipped it for american consoles a long time ago or something.

      Also that interpretation behind the ab/xy difference kinda blows my mind lol

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        Yeah, I don’t fault them for sticking to their original layouts. Maybe Xbox et all should have used numbers instead of letters. Or symbols, I really like the PlayStation’s symbols.

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      27 days ago

      Nintendo set the standard in 1990 with the SNES. Microsoft broke it in 2001 with the Xbox.

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    27 days ago

    First off, genius and I don’t know why I never thought of this! So smart. So obvious.

    Second, what game is she playing?

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    My girlfriend has gotten mad about this in the past. I’m like hold the run button then press the jump button. She would get angry and tell me to say which buttons those are. I would really have to think about it, when playing a game I associate a button with the function and forget which button is what.

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      What button is it?!

      I don’t know hold on! Pretends controller is in hand. Presses thumb hmmm left and down. Okay what console is this? Square and x? X and A? Whatever the hell Nintendo is?

      Left and down buttons!

      It doesn’t work!

      Figure it out!

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      26 days ago

      Even that gets switched around sometimes. I hate it when games use the bottom button for run/attack and the right one for jump.

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    27 days ago

    Holy fuck I’m not the only one. My partner and I watched The Last of Us and I wanted to play the game. He had it on his ps4, which I have never played. I made myself the same thing with the dumb ass square, circle, triangle, dodecahedron layout on the PS controller. He laughed at me too :C

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        Just to make controller layouts more confusing:

        The PlayStation buttons were designed as:

        ⭕ = YES ❌ = NO

        But Notth American gamers were used to these options being in the other position so the function the buttons were designed for is backwards on a lot of games.

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          Where did they get used to them being in the opposite position? Nintendo was using down button for no and right button for yes on the SNES, and Xbox wasn’t around yet.

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        To be fair, the commenter to whom you’re responding might have been engaging in hyperbole.

        Maybe not. Just a theory. (But I was similarly confused)

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      As a guy who has been gaming for decades, don’t feel bad, I still look at the controller every time it says “Press X to do thing!” even thought I know by muscle memory what every button does, as soon as it references a button or keyboard key by name it’s like my brain just flows straight out my ears and I am suddenly an old grandma using technology for the first time, hunting and pecking for each lettered button.