Need to make a primal scream without gathering footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid!

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

  • froztbyte@awful.systemsEnglish
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    5 months ago

    looks like perplexity misbehaves in a way that’d allow them to hide

    quick whois on the ip from that log snippet says ec2, so they’re probably doing scaleout via dynamic instances (I’ve been wondering about this for a variety of the services)

    full fucking parasitical, again and again

    • V0ldek@awful.systemsEnglish
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      5 months ago

      I mean, it is a “learning experience” in the same way a car crash is technically both an experience and something you probably didn’t know first hand before.

    • swlabr@awful.systemsEnglish
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      5 months ago

      Can you gaslight people into thinking burnout is good, actually? HN gives it the ol’ college try

    • gerikson@awful.systemsEnglish
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      5 months ago

      I couldn’t remember who Chris Langan was, and mobile search gave me “Chris Langham”:

      Christopher Langham (born 14 April 1949) is an English writer, actor, and comedian.

      No mention of philosophy, but this turned up

      On 2 August 2007, Langham was found guilty of 15 charges of downloading and possessing level 5 child sexual abuse images and videos.

      OK so maybe the correct person?

      No it turns out Langan is the person with “the world’s highest IQ”.

      From the podcast transcript

      … if people look up Chris Langan on Wikipedia, under his views section, they’ll be like, ah, these are some far right views. The CTMU is obviously not about that, but… anything you want to just fill in for people that might be curious about that part of it?

      […]

      When people bring up his political views, I often mention that Heidegger was a Nazi, and that doesn’t mean his philosophy should just be dismissed outright. I don’t think Chris is remotely a Nazi. In my personal interaction with him, he’s been a wonderful person. He’s been kind and generous with me, and I respect him personally.

      No doubt Himmler’s friends and family thought he was a great guy too.

      • zogwarg@awful.systemsEnglish
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        5 months ago

        From a brief glance at the CTMU it fits into:

        • not even wrong
        • not that deep
        • cloaked in really unecessary jargon

        It’s fascinating to see people re-invent the same bad eschatology, it’s like there’s crazed compulsive shaped hole in the heart of man or something.

        • carlitoscohones@awful.systemsEnglish
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          5 months ago

          Wikipedia tells me that Langan says that he can prove the existence of God, the soul and an afterlife, using mathematics … I feel like there’s gonna be some bad Bayes in there somewhere.

          • blakestacey@awful.systemsOPEnglish
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            5 months ago

            From what I recall from the halcyon days of science-blogging, it was more bad Gödel than bad Bayes, but a dose of the latter would be unsurprising.

      • Amoeba_Girl@awful.systemsEnglish
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        5 months ago

        I often mention that Heidegger was a Nazi, and that doesn’t mean his philosophy should just be dismissed outright

        Very true. It should instead be dismissed because it is the exact sort of reactionary nonsense a craven nazi would try to pass off as philosophical inquiry.

        • gerikson@awful.systemsEnglish
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          5 months ago

          Yeah I realized that as soon as I found the correct result.

          So many high-IQ fascists, I get memory buffer overruns.

        • Soyweiser@awful.systemsEnglish
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          5 months ago

          I had missed that post, no idea Ben had fallen that far. (Like I knew the psi stuff, not the fanboying of the person people need to ‘well not all nazis were bad’ things about).

  • Mii@awful.systemsEnglish
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    5 months ago

    Oh look, Elon openly snuggling up to Nazis and “just asking questions”. As if I didn’t hate this clown enough.

    (For anyone out of the loop: the AfD is a far-right political party in Germany and the spiritual successor to the NSDAP. They’re praising the SS, advocate for legalization of holocaust denial and historical revisionism, removal of hate crimes from the code of law, and more. They’re so openly Nazis that they got kicked out of the EU parliament’s far-right ID coalition for being too fucking Nazi. There’s no leeway. They’re literal card-carrying national socialists.)

    • null@slrpnk.netEnglish
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      5 months ago

      Notice that he, of course, does not list any of those “policies” that he’s “read”.

      • deborah@awful.systemsEnglish
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        5 months ago

        Conservative: I have been censored for my conservative views. Me: Holy shit! You were censored for wanting lower taxes? Con: LOL no...no not those views. Me: So....deregulation? Con: Haha no not those views either. Me: Which views, exactly? Con: Oh, you know the ones

        (for mastodon users who don’t get the image: it’s Andrew Lawrence’s “you know the ones” tweet)

    • William B Peckham@techhub.social
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      5 months ago

      @mii @blakestacey I cannot and will not argue about your points, they’re absolutely valid. The words you’re using however are not correct. Nazis are fascists, as are these right wing monsters. They are antisocialist, not socialists. They are against socialism and against democracy and only for their own brand of autocracy.

      • mountainriver@awful.systemsEnglish
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        5 months ago

        “National socialism” is the term the Nazis invented to describe themselves. “Nazi” is the abbreviation of the term “national socialism”. Could be good to know.

          • self@awful.systemsEnglish
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            5 months ago

            no, nobody here is particularly shocked that fascists would lie about being socialists

          • flere-imsaho@awful.systemsEnglish
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            5 months ago

            don’t be the annoying pedant; we’re fully capable of understanding that the “national socialist german worker’s party” was not a socialist party (and that a “nazi” is a pejorative and was from the start), that the phrase “marxist-leninist” is generally used to mean “left-authoritarian but want to pretend it isn’t”, that the “communist party of the soviet union” was actually presiding over a project of building an authoritarian state capitalism, and that the “republican” party in the united states is trying to make the united states a theocratic dictatorship.

        • sc_griffith@awful.systemsEnglish
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          5 months ago

          also good to point out for someone just finding out about this:

          (1) The name is a lie in the same way “the democratic people’s republic of north korea” is. So Peckham is absolutely correct that the Nazis hated socialists and were not socialists, as evidenced by the fact that they tried to kill all of them.

          (2) The modern version of this lie is pretending the Nazis were socialists, and it’s a very common tactic in the far right. So Peckham is correct that we should not call them socialists, it’s just that using the term “national socialist” doesn’t actually imply you think they are socialists.

          (3) They did spring originally from the fusing of former socialist idealogues with the far right. So as with many massively successful lies there is a distant evolutionary relationship to something true.

    • deborah@awful.systemsEnglish
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      5 months ago

      They want to ban kosher food and circumcision, but love the Israeli government and the war on Gaza, which says… so many things, about so many people.

    • ebu@awful.systemsEnglish
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      5 months ago

      Maybe I’m missing something.

      translation: thinking about this too much, or at all really, would be disastrous for my political ideology and ego, so someone else please waste their time and energy typing up a reply i won’t read, so i can continue having the image of an intellectual engaged in vigorous debate without actually having to do anything

      • deborah@awful.systemsEnglish
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        5 months ago

        I suspect Elon’s pretty comfortable with his political ideology and ego, tbh. But I agree with the second part.

      • Soyweiser@awful.systemsEnglish
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        5 months ago

        Imho that is just plausible deniability, just asking questions style shit. So news papers can keep writing ‘his politics are so vague, we don’t know’ while he keeps unbanning fascists on twitter.

    • johne@denvr.social
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      5 months ago

      @mii
      I really didn’t think the second part of “Those who don’t learn history” was going to be so literal.

    • sc_griffith@awful.systemsEnglish
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      5 months ago

      he’s been openly a nazi propagandist pretty much since he took over twitter. they are hiding black crime stats from you.png, “this is the actual truth,” etc. without saying “I am literally a Nazi” or “we should do holocaust” I genuinely don’t know how much more open he can be about it

        • froztbyte@awful.systemsEnglish
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          5 months ago

          oh huh. I didn’t actually know about that bit. TIL!

          christ every little bit of history I read which had some power-hungry rich fucker going “mmmm maybe we should hear them out”, and then watching what’s happening in popular media coverage and shit. le sigh.

  • o7___o7@awful.systemsEnglish
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    5 months ago

    CW: Dongs, Blood and Thunder,

    So yeah…remember that Roko post from last week where he explained how much men don’t need women? Oglaf did it first.

    This is Roko’s ideal future; Roko’s Modern life, if you will. Checkmate, ladies.

    (NSFW)

    https://www.oglaf.com/dark-miasma/ (part 1 of 24 lol) https://www.oglaf.com/burningjewels/

    But nature finds a way:

    https://www.oglaf.com/honor/ https://www.oglaf.com/son-of-kronar/ https://www.oglaf.com/son-of-kronar/2/

    • V0ldek@awful.systemsEnglish
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      5 months ago

      Blood and Thunder, Victory at Sea, (…), Scented Candles

      I’m sorry what is any of this. I’m scared to click any of the things since I can’t even comprehend the content warning.

        • V0ldek@awful.systemsEnglish
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          5 months ago

          I’ve been around internet enough to expect “Scented Candles” to be some insanely disgusting psychosexual performance art, not… literal fucking candles.

            • froztbyte@awful.systemsEnglish
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              5 months ago

              and it’s remarkably wholesome, in a way. it’s never particularly gross or over the line, it’s always oglaf

      • o7___o7@awful.systemsEnglish
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        5 months ago

        Sorry! I leaned too hard on the inside jokes. Oglaf is a pretty successful fantasy-themed web comic with adult humor. It’s nothing you’d need therapy to get over, though it has more nudity than you’d want your boss to notice if they walked by your desk.

        “Blood and Thunder” was heavily memed around a dozen years ago.

  • David Gerard@awful.systemsMEnglish
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    5 months ago

    i ran the NVidia CEO’s press conference through my ChatGPT based translator and it came out “lol this is gonna bomb in two quarters but holy shit it’s fun while it lasts and i can def get a few scheduled insider sales done, now where’s the coke”

  • e8d79@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
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    5 months ago

    This fucking thread on HN right now.

    OP is an enlightened freelance webdeveloper who is very scared about ghosts from their computer.

    “I find myself in a unique position here, as my diverse background and experiences have given me a perspective that allows me to see the potential impact of AI more clearly than large parts of the society I’m living in”

    Another poster is also very scared about ghosts from the computer and converted their entire net-worth into NVidia shares. Now that they are heavily invested in a company deeply entangled with ghosts from the computer the apocalypse basically has to happen. After all it couldn’t be that they overreacted.

  • o7___o7@awful.systemsEnglish
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    5 months ago

    Lawrence Lessig falls victim to the siren song of the blarney engines. Also, lol cnn

    Many people refer to concerns about the technology as a question of “AI safety.” That’s a terrible term to describe the risks that many people in the field are deeply concerned about. Some of the leading AI researchers, including Turing Prize winner Yoshua Bengio and Sir Geoffrey Hinton, the computer expert and neuroscientist sometimes referred to as “the godfather of AI,” fear the possibility of runaway systems creating not just “safety risks,” but catastrophic harm.

    And while the average person can’t imagine how anyone could lose control of a computer (“just unplug the damn thing!”), we should also recognize that we don’t actually understand the systems that these experts fear.

    Companies operating in the field of AGI — artificial general intelligence, which broadly speaking refers to the theoretical AI research attempting to create software with human-like intelligence, including the ability to perform tasks that it is not trained or developed for — are among the least regulated, inherently dangerous companies in America today. There is no agency that has legal authority to monitor how the companies develop their technology or the precautions they are taking.

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/06/opinions/artificial-intelligence-risks-chat-gpt-lessig/index.html

  • Steve@awful.systemsEnglish
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    5 months ago

    need a meme image that represents the way Apple is legitimising openai after all the crypto degens were desperate for apple to legitimise nfts. the jealous hot mess rejected for another hot mess

    • Soyweiser@awful.systemsEnglish
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      5 months ago

      degens

      Not your fault, but I really dislike this word and wish people wouldn’t start copying it from the cryptobros. Not a fan of calling people degenerates.

      • Steve@awful.systemsEnglish
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        5 months ago

        fair shake. I never intended it as a shortened word, just a crypto word in itself. consider this my last use