• Snowies@lemmy.zip
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    6 hours ago

    Socialized Democracy.

    Basically democracy with robust safety nets, strong regulation on business, strong labor unions, and socialized healthcare and higher education OPTIONS.

    Capitalism is good for competition and innovation so we can’t really ditch it completely, but we live in society, not the jungle, so we should have safety nets and socialized options for poor people to gain independence and social mobility.

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      Social Democracy is just capitalism with welfare, and as such either funds itself via imperialism like the Nordic Countries, or is ultimately going to see capital use its political power to erase the gains of workers. Markets can play a useful role in spurring development of small and medium firms, but the larger firms and key industries should be publicly owned and planned, as market mechanics begin to lose all benefit towards higher development.

      Really, it sounds like you just want Socialism with Chinese Characteristics.

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        I want democracy that works for the people and not just the people with the most money.

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            The problem with outright socialism is it always gets toppled, because your success is a threat to the entire world order, and foreign governments can make offensive decisions at a faster rate than you can make defensive ones, since your big decisions have to filter through more eyes and hands in the name of fairness.

            When we’re talking about entire countries, we have to be more pragmatic than idealistic, or our plans just don’t work sadly.

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              China is still here, and still socialist, and it isn’t leaving. This is because of Democratic Centralism, a fast and cohesive way to adapt to changing conditions while retaining democratic input. For less urgent decisions, the PRC has slower, more comprehensive, bottom-up systems, while it focuses more on a top-down approach for system-wide changes and direction. It’s kinda like “top down, from the bottom up.”

              I agree with pragmatism over idealism, that’s why I’m a communist and push for socialism. Socialism is immensely practical.

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      4 hours ago

      Look at you, making sense and coming to a logical conclusion. Doesn’t sound good in headlines though, so it’ll never fly.

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        Pro-tip: Channel your frustration into positivity for better reception.

        Nothing you said was unreasonable per se. It was just how you said it that’s getting you flak.

        You may not give a shit, but if you do… I’m just sayin’