Kbin/Mbin (and possibly others?) definitely have the edge here since those platforms make votes public (only admins can see them on Lemmy). So, if you want to confirm what I’m saying here, go view some of these posts from Kbin/Mbin.
Every time one of the “usual suspects” says stuff like this in the comments, there will later be posts detailing how Biden is doing (or at least earnestly trying to do) exactly the things they’re saying he needs to be doing (oR ElSe i WiLl noT voTE anD NEithER ShoULD yoU!!!11!!). 100% of the time, those posts are downvoted by these same “usual suspect” accounts.
What gives? They have very strong opinions about how he should run his administration, so you’d think they’d appreciate him doing what they’ve been so helpfully suggesting. Unless…it was never about the issues at all.
That thin veneer of concern they’re hiding behind is not as thick as they think it is and is quite easy to see through. Now you know where to look.
Edit: Please don’t name and shame any specific users. That may violate the community or LW rules. We all know who most of the “usual suspects” are.
I’m not American so I’m not going to tell you who to vote for, but don’t pretend that Biden cares about Gaza, even if Trump is worse. You can draw the line wherever you want, compromise whatever you want, but stop lying to yourselves.
If all we can expect is genocide, we have to consider other interests. I don’t think Biden wants dead Palestinians, he just isn’t willing to toss Israel out in the cold and that is better than cheerleading the bombs.
Then we have failed. We shouldn’t accept “little a nazi, as a treat”.
I would say you exaggerate, and you should not vote and let the adults decide your government for you.
Me saying that we shouldn’t accept genocide is not exaggeration. What happened to “never again”? You being fine with genocide doesn’t make you an adult, in fact it’s quite the opposite since you submit to authority like a cowardly child.
Withholding your vote from Biden is peak virtue signalling. It does nothing for Palestinians, they are even more screwed with Trump than they are now. Trump already screwed them over moving the US embassy to Jerusalem and becoming the only nation to recognize Jerusalem as the Israeli Capital.
Protest, boycott, form a union or convince yours to strike, by all means, electoral politics is not the only or the most important political arena.
But complaining about Biden online to people that already don’t like him is worse than useless.
Nobody said anything about withholding your vote. I’m sick and tired of every criticism of genocide going back to “these are your two choices so suck it up”. We all know how this stupid election system works, all you’re doing is taking heat off people who support genocide.
I respectfully disagree.
This both sides narrative is FUD, and it’s dangerous for Americans, Ukrainians, even Palestinians.
You’re not going to solve the problem by ignoring the underlying cause.
Honestly, neither do most of the people using “GeNoCiDe JoE”
I still chuckle every time I see that posted unironically, as if it’s a nickname that’s going to stick.
And it’s such an OBVIOUS Trumpism, I can’t believe the far left is stupid enough to think they came up with it.
Bless their hearts, they’re trying to make it stick, though.
I just immediately block the people that use it unironically. They’re either so lacking in nuance that I don’t care what they have to say, actively shilling, or are useful idiots who drank the Kool Aid (or some combo thereof).
I’m very happy with it sticking as a name for Joseph Stalin, who passed a law making it illegal to be gay.
This seems to piss off the MLs for some reason
I like to respond with Turbo Genocide Donny
He’s literally negotiating prisoner exchanges and secured their natural resource access, plus reopened the path to Gaza being able to reopen its international airport by striking similar agreements over other ports of entry.
Signed, a Palestinian American who’s done with fauxgressives Kiffyeh washing abdicating their duty to avert fascist takeover.
Edit: on further consideration, I think either Olive Washing or Melon Washing would be a better term for it, Olives because they’re a staple in Palestinian agriculture, and Melons because it’s apparently become trendy to reference water melons as an innuendo for Palestine because censor algorithms no likada flag or more overt shows of support.
You mean the deal where Israel takes control of the Gaza marine oil field?
*Keffiyeh
Eh, modaristi would have whacked me for not spelling it with a u lol