• randompasta@lemmy.today
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    4 months ago

    You made my point for me. The example I gave with Bush/Obama was whataboutism intentionally to show how invalid it can be. My original point still stands. If the meme had a US flag then it’d have been more accurate. But it was specifically blaming Democrats even though congressional funding is ultimately what funds Israel.

    • SadArtemis🏳️‍⚧️@lemmygrad.ml
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      4 months ago

      Well, if they’re just all figureheads (by and large they are), then what does it matter if it’s Blue Hitler or Orange Goebbels? And are we going to pretend party politics (for all that the two-party monopoly is a farce in and of itself) mean the poor widdle Democrats have no influence on congress, or that they have no extensive track record of support of Zionism and all other sorts of fascistic and imperialist ventures, same as the Republicans? The pathetic excuse you give for your beloved Blue Nazi party falls flat on its face. Blue Nazi, Red Nazi, take your Nazis and go home, no one here’s interested nor braindead enough to fall for your schtick.

        • SadArtemis🏳️‍⚧️@lemmygrad.ml
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          4 months ago

          Why yes actually, I would prefer Trump (though I don’t support him and don’t think anyone should) over Biden. And no, I don’t think things would significantly change for Palestine, at least not due to a second Trump term- but at least, I view a Trump presidency as marginally less likely to start WW3 (only marginally because by-and-large POTUSes are figureheads), meaningfully less effective at rallying the rest of the west to the US’ fascist coalitions, and considerably less effective at manufacturing consent- in the imperial cores and beyond- for the fascist policies that both parties- and indeed, the entire US political establishment- are so dedicated to.

          Biden and the DNC are the more dangerous, deranged, unified face of fascism as I see it by almost every metric. Though no one should be supporting Goebbels over Hitler, or vice-versa.

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      4 months ago

      I think one of the elements you’re missing here is that not even liberals expect any meaningful condemnation of violence from the right. It is specifically the democrats who veil themselves in progressive language and claim to support human rights and oppose war all the while committing genocide. This meme correctly identifies the chauvinistic hypocrisy of the democrats.