we appear to be the first to write up the outrage coherently too. much thanks to the illustrious @self

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      not sure how legit that account is, actually. It’s not the one I @'ed - this one was created in Jan 2024 - either it’s his low-key alt or a bot

      perhaps his plausible deniability account.

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        do you get banned from twitter if you call him a fucking asshole?

        I’m working on a more detailed reply on mastodon but to be honest, I’m pretty sure he didn’t read the original post

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          it all stinks so much. He calls it “opt-in” but the official description of that opt-in is:

          If you try to use Proton Scribe, you will be prompted to chose between local and server-side. So, technically, it’s not active until you decide how, and if, you want to use it.

          as you can see here: https://mastodon.social/@protonprivacy/112807462045101580

          there is opt-in and then there is dangling an expired hotdog

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            holy fuck that’s worse than I thought

            so going back to not being able to recommend Proton to anyone again: there’s now a button (and associated “tutorial” advertising modals trying to get the user to click the button, don’t pretend there won’t be) that when clicked gives the user a confusing choice between an option that might not work and one that exfiltrates their data and claims it doesn’t (if they even get this choice on a computer that doesn’t support the local LLM), and if they interact with that it just opts them into the feature in a state that may or may not (but by default does) expose the plaintext of their messages to Proton’s servers

            and I’m supposed to recommend this horseshit to non-technical users? what’s that sound like, I wonder? “oh it’s a great privacy-oriented mail service you should pay for — but not for your business because you might fuck up and exfiltrate your data, and also there’s a chance they’ll enable the same feature for regular users at some unspecified time in the future so look out for that. oh and don’t get visionary either.” yeah fuck that