• The Cuuuuube@beehaw.org
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        1 month ago

        Weird fucking thing for a leftist to do, isn’t it? Dessalines and Nutomic both claimed it was because they were free speech absolutists. Meanwhile saying China is performing a genocide against the Uigher people is a gaurunteed instaban with the explanation “orientalism”

        • poVoq@slrpnk.net
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          1 month ago

          The actual claim was to keep these people on that instance to make defederation easier. Which doesn’t work, but AFAIK no one ever claimed to be “free speech absolutists”.

        • millie@beehaw.org
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          1 month ago

          That’s because they’re not leftists. Most of the tankies on Lemmy probably aren’t. I’m sure some of them are people who get swept up in the tide of favoring mockery over patience and compassion while actually believing leftist political positions, but it’s pretty clear what the bulk of them are doing.

          They’re corporate or authoritarian government plants trying to break the coalition of left and center. They’re doing everything they can to make both look unreasonable and unhinged in the eyes of the other. Demotivating leftists from endorsing centrists who lean their way, while making centrists feel targeted and deeided by the left.

          It’s way easier to break coalitions and sew chaos than it is to drive engagement and unity. It literally takes less thinking, less precision, and less strategy.

        • BlackRose@slrpnk.net
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          1 month ago

          I just found out that beehaw is not on their list of 579 Servers. Does anyone know why? Today the list is not called recomended instances anymore.

    • Juniper (she/her) 🫐@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      1 month ago

      Yep, this just prevented me, a trans woman, from ever donating to the main Lemmy project. I’m severely disappointed. I’ll donate only to good instances with leadership I know aren’t phobic.

      This literally ignores the experiences of trans people, all of whom lost something in order to transition, and many everything. The system is being weaponized against us at every level. What an ignorant thing to say.

      • Beaver [she/her]@lemmy.caOP
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        1 month ago

        Right! Think about how two-spirited folks were loved and supported by the First Nations communities for thousands of years before Europeans stepped foot into turtle island.

        • The Cuuuuube@beehaw.org
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          1 month ago

          Bruuuh it frustrates me to no end how capitalism creates a culture of emptiness by scooping out of us all sense of community, compassion, and humanity. It takes everything worth living for away from us and holds it hostage from us, telling us we can have it if we spend the money, give it to the capital holders.

    • VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      1 month ago

      People who don’t like free speech on here are sorely confused as to the purpose of activitypub and lemmy, they were explicitly designed to be censorship resistant so that people could express controversial opinions without being silenced - they already understand that people who dislike free speech won’t support them, thankfully this project doesn’t need much support and there are some free speech supporters that do donate even if they don’t agree with every single opinion of every dev involved.