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      been using Darktable for years now. had the same trouble with it as people going photoshop to gimp have at first, because my brain was all in lightroom. once i sat down and watched some videos of people explaining their own darktable process and experimented new workflows. it became everything lightroom was, but without the constantly scolding me about bumping my subscription adobe did.

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      I’ve always heard good things about Darktable as an alternative to Lightroom, but I do not have experience using it so irdk.

      Alternatively there is always the high-seas version of Adobe CC. I wouldn’t be too concerned with the ethics of it seeing as this is Adobe we’re talking about 🤮.

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    It’s always the same. Many people tell you how a software is not a replacement for other software. Of course it isn’t, because otherwise it would be exactly the same piece of software.

    Tell me a replacement for LaTeX, Postfix, zsh, vim or OpenSSH. There isn’t, because these are the best from my point of view.

    Instead of recommending one alternative, you sometimes need to combine them. The most powerful tools are btw combinable in a tool chain and the best are controllable from common scripting or programming languages.

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    Photopea would be a better drop in than Gimp. But it’s a website and that grinds my gears.

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      It loads completely in the browser. iirc you could disable your network after loading the “website” and it would continue to work. Simply a web app, if you will

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      Gimp is an alternative to Photoshop the same way a bicycle is an alternative to a car.

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          Yeah kinda. Its the right thing to do, but it feels weird when you start the conversion. It might not be as convenient, but it’s ultimately more versatile. Maybe you are not as fast as you used to be, but you have more control. There’s lots of facettes to this idea. I didn’t want to judge anything.

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        Got an example? I like darktable, although figuring out which modules to use is definitely a bit of a learning curve

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          Something as simple as importing photos on Darktable is just such a pain in the ass compared to Lightroom.

          In Lightroom, it automatically prompts you to import photos when a CD camera’s card is plugged in. You set the import location and it creates nested yearly, monthly and daily photos. When importing, the option to select only new photos is plainly in view. Once importing is done, LR automatically ejects the card.

          Darktable, on the other hand… The whole import and then add to library method is just bizarre. Customization is great but when it just needlessly adds steps to the equation and disrupts what should be a butter smooth workflow, I jump ship. There’s so many things on LR I’ve been able to intuitively figure out while their Darktable equivalent require viewing tutorial after tutorial. It’s so annoying.

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              Most users don’t care about the features DT has over LR, that’s the point. If DT truly was the superior alternative, it would skyrocket in popularity like other open source software done right, like VLC.

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                That’s not really a fair comparison. VLC development started in 1996. Darktable was first released in 2009. Give Darktable another 13 years of development and then you can make that comparison.

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            I don’t really share this experience to be honest, granted I copy my files to my pc manually anyways (I didn’t even know that your method was possible), but darktable has a feature pretty similar to that. “Copy & Import”, I don’t think it pops up automatically when you insert a card, but you can change the folder and the naming and such as you like. You can even ignore non-raw files, an option which I haven’t found in lightroom. So I’m not sure what’s so bizarre about the import tools in darktable, seems pretty similar to lightroom to me.

            Customization is great but when it just needlessly adds steps to the equation and disrupts what should be a butter smooth workflow, I jump ship. There’s so many things on LR I’ve been able to intuitively figure out while their Darktable equivalent require viewing tutorial after tutorial.

            That I kinda do agree with, some things in darktable are definitely more complicated than they should be, I don’t really want to watch a 40 minute tutorial on how to recover shadows from an image and there are also sliders and buttons which seemingly shouldn’t be used. So yeah darktable is less intuitive in that respect, although it works great ones you know what to do (And tbh it’s not that difficult, most tutorials are just excessively long)

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    Gimp is good. I don’t know what gimp haters are always so mad about. The buttons are in different places than in photoshop, big whoop. I have been able to do everything I’ve ever attempted in gimp and I do modding and game development. I just don’t get it.

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      what the gimp haters are always so mad about

      You have to use a plugin to even draw a circle properly.

      You can’t make non-destructive changes to things like filtered elements e.g. make blurred/outlined/etc. text and then change the text.

      Content-aware functions

      big whoop

      Just how different it is from Photoshop is literally the biggest complaint people have. And that it’s just unintuitive to many even if you never used photoshop. For gimp to propel in popularity I think it has to become more familiar to what professionals are used to.

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        You have to use a plugin to even draw a circle properly.

        How so? I’ve used GIMP to draw plenty of circles without any plugins.

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        I hate both Gimp and Krita, but I prefer Krita.

        Ultimately, drawing freeware just feels bad to use.

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      As a mechanical engineer - there is no serviceable free CAD. The only thing you can hope for is Linux compatibility - and you have 100% of that with Onshape only (cloud based).

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      Freecad is getting more and more attention. When version 1.0 releases (soon), it will be something worth checking out, but there is still work to do.

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    My list is a bit different:

    Photoshop ➡️ Krita Illustrator ➡️ Krita After Effects ➡️ Blender Premier Pro ➡️ kdenlive Adobe XD and Figma ➡️ Everything about these tools seems wrong to me (see comment below) Cinema 4D and 3DS Max ➡️ I thought everyone ditched those in favor of Blender long ago? LOL

    I completely do not understand the appeal of tools like Figma. As a developer who’s made lot of single page web applications (though not in a while… Maybe everything is different now? 🤷) tools like Figma seem like they’d create a major headache for developers.

    I mean, sure: If a tool gives you a quick, easy, collaborative way to mock up a website and user interactions then by all means! But it looks like people are going far beyond that and using Figma to generate code. In my experience with such tools in the past, that’s where everything goes wrong.

    If the developers themselves aren’t using the tool then the code will drift from the GUI design tool too much over time, becoming a boat anchor that holds development back and slows everything down. But maybe folks are just using it to get things started? I dunno. I just don’t get the hype around it.

    Then again, I’m a guy who does all his CAD design work in OpenSCAD so I might have something like a superpower in regards to visual reasoning that prevents me from understanding the issues others have with conceptualizing code-as-design 🤷

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      I’ve seen Figma provide CSS values but I think it’s main purpose is designers can use it to create UX specs that devs can then implement. It’s definitely more convenient to make mocks in than using HTML and CSS directly. It also seems more popular than the Adobe option but it’s also super not free

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    Trying to learn how to use Natron felt impossible. It’s a very different approach to what it does and I could not even start to figure it out.